Who Needs A Rifle? The Walker At 100 Yards

[TNGhost]

Interesting video on long-range shooting here. Good information on bullets, loads and loading.

I recall decades ago, when I received my first professional handgun training, the instructors demonstrating how easy it was to hit a man-sized target at 100 yards. At that time they did it not only to show us how easy it was to repeatedly hit the target at that range, but also how easy it would be for you to get hit at that range. They were using .38 revolvers and one instructor put six rounds center mass over his shoulder (using a mirror) at 100 yds. So, this is eminently practical, with practice.

 

[Dude]

Here's the follow-up video.

 

[D Yager]

I get amazed at how many folks seem to think 100 yards is equivalent to a half a mile. It's 300 feet. I've personally dropped jackrabbits at 130 yards with a pistol. Not a big deal.

 

[tenngun]

I get amazed at how many folks seem to think 100 yards is equivalent to a half a mile. It's 300 feet. I've personally dropped jackrabbits at 130 yards with a pistol. Not a big deal.

Me shooting a pistol at a hundred yards would be the equivalent of half a mile

 

[Sam squanch]

I once saw a friend hit a shaving cream can with a 44 magnum at 75 yards. He never managed to hit ANYTHING with it again.

 

[Ed C.]

I get amazed at how many folks seem to think 100 yards is equivalent to a half a mile. It's 300 feet. I've personally dropped jackrabbits at 130 yards with a pistol. Not a big deal.

Would be a big deal for me to even see a rabbit at 130 yards. Congrats!

 

[SOLANCO]

Walker at 100 yards? You forgot your rifle?

 

[nkbj]

The Walker was made for distance.

 

[tenngun]

I once saw a friend hit a shaving cream can with a 44 magnum at 75 yards. He never managed to hit ANYTHING with it again.

There is a you tube video of two guys one shooting a .58 enfield and the other a bess. Ten shots at three hundred yards at a man sized target.
The enfield shot low and put them in the dirt for the dirt three shots, the rest were all hits but one or two
The Bess had dirt fly up all over, except one that was center of mass almost dead center
Bragging right the rest of his life

 

[Omahkapi'si]

The Walker was made for distance.

Yup, the pistol designed to put your horseback enemy afoot.

 

[SOLANCO]

The Walker was made for distance.

Even so, most are better 100 yard marksmen with long arms than with hand guns.

 

[deerstalkert]

I once had a wise man tell me that a hand gun was what you used to fight your way to your rifle.
the way i shoot hand guns, I have never had to doubt his wisdom!
though in the immortal words of Matthew Quigley, don't have much use for one, but never said i couldn't use one.

 

[Trev]

Even so, most are better 100 yard marksmen with long arms than with hand guns.

That is because they don't practice at 100 yard distances, isn't it?
I'm always surprised at people shooting or sighting in at 25 yards, that's a good distance to retreat from.

On horseback, two forces closing at a gallop, the time elapsed between the hundred yard shot and hand to hand contact would be 5-6 seconds. With a moving platform and a moving target, closing speeds of ~40mph, or ~58' per second, I imagine all hits to be more or less accidental. With each ~20 stride of the horse though the odds of getting a hit would increase.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

That is because they don't practice at 100 yard distances, isn't it?
I'm always surprised at people shooting or sighting in at 25 yards, that's a good distance to retreat from.

On horseback, two forces closing at a gallop, the time elapsed between the hundred yard shot and hand to hand contact would be 5-6 seconds. With a moving platform and a moving target, closing speeds of ~40mph, or ~58' per second, I imagine all hits to be more or less accidental. With each ~20 stride of the horse though the odds of getting a hit would increase.

Well IF you're part of a line of horsemen charging, and so are "they" on the other side, maybe not the guy whom you were trying to hit, but quite possibly the horse or the guy near your target would be hit.

LD

 

[Tom A Hawk]

I'm noticing that his lever never drops at firing. With heavy conicals I have this problem even with a Dragoon. Has Uberti solved this issue?

 

[TNGhost]

I'm noticing that his lever never drops at firing. With heavy conicals I have this problem even with a Dragoon. Has Uberti solved this issue?

Good observation. In the first video it drops every time, and he discusses the design flaw. In the second vid it doesn't drop. It would be nice to know if he made some adjustment to the latch or if it was a change in load as the recoil does maybe seem lighter in the second vid.

 

[nkbj]

As posted in the past in my Uberti Walker the faster recoil of round ball and full chambers drops the lever while heavier bullets such as RCBS #45-225-CAV and Lyman #45266 give a slower (equal and opposite reaction) recoil and do not. Obviously mine isn't an original and there's no reason to imagine the retaining spring works the same but it was interesting to see that it works correctly when the revolver is loaded as originally designed for.

 

[Tom A Hawk]

As posted in the past in my Uberti Walker the faster recoil of round ball and full chambers drops the lever while heavier bullets such as RCBS #45-225-CAV and Lyman #45266 give a slower (equal and opposite reaction) recoil and do not. Obviously mine isn't an original and there's no reason to imagine the retaining spring works the same but it was interesting to see that it works correctly when the revolver is loaded as originally designed for.

That seems backward to me. Heavier bullets produce heavier recoil.

 

[nkbj]

That seems backward to me. Heavier bullets produce heavier recoil.

The recoil pulse being stretched out over time let the springy retainer keep the lever from falling. In contrast the faster recoil pulse with round ball dropped it. Kinda like the difference between a push and a karate chop.

 

[TNGhost]

That seems backward to me. Heavier bullets produce heavier recoil.

In rewatching the videos, it seems he switched from 3F in the first one to 2F in the second one, which would lend some credence to what @nkbj is saying, the 3F likely providing sharper recoil with any given bullet weight.