Who Needs A Rifle? The Walker At 100 Yards

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I generally ignore politically oriented stuff, but the implied accusation against the BP is ill informed and lacks judgement on the subject. The BP is doing exactly what their superiors tell them to do. They are not able to make their own choices on what to do.
many are latrinos and being paid off by the narcos like the DEA
 
I used to do the maintenance on Border Patrol aircraft in the Tucson sector. Lots of frustration from both pilots and the guys on the ground. Moral was real low at the time I was there. I can't imagine what it's like now. Hopefully when the current administration goes away those guys can get back to doing the job they were hired for. I always make it a point to thank them at the check stations when I go through. It's a small thing and it doe's take a lot of them by surprise.
 
Who's backpedaling? I just stated a fact as I observed it first hand. And true colors? I did aircraft maintenance for these guys and saw the low morale. Are you an illegal immigrant?
 
Who's backpedaling? I just stated a fact as I observed it first hand. And true colors? I did aircraft maintenance for these guys and saw the low morale. Are you an illegal immigrant?
I did worked the Tucson Sector as well, on my original post I was referring to the USBP who still shoot from the horses! Don’t know if you ever got to see them training at the Maraña Range, it was awesome to see how they train the horses not to respond to gunfire!
 
I can train someone to shoot handgun at 100 yards and beyond in less than an hour and have done so repeatedly. Add to that a dry dirt background and it makes it that much easier. I trained a young lady who was helping my parents with their horses and she was AMAZING after basic fundamentals. Sight picture is hugely important along with other basics. I have a good friend who cannot do it and I know exactly why. He can’t slow down if his life depended on it. Anyone can be taught provided decent eyesight.
 
No unfortunately didn't get away from DM AFB in Tucson. I was a civilian contractor. I worked with guys like Randy Acree and Ron Mulkirken.
 
Not sure where you're going with this one. Are you implying that such a shot is not possible or that I made it up? I don't use scopes on pistols, my eyes are still remarkably good for my age and when those shots were made I was doing a lot of handgun shooting and chasing jackrabbits around the country in Nevada. The range of 130yds was confirmed with a range finder and I had a witness.
I grew up testing myself shooting at longer distances. Once I was allowed to carry firearms I was seldom out of reach of a .22, dads .22 Hornet or .30-30. If I saw a coyote I was shooting, rock chucks, picket pins, badgers, beavers, or whatever. None of those calibers are considered long range rifles but they will do it. Just like the cap and ball revolvers… The more long range pistol shooting you do the luckier you get..
 
I grew up testing myself shooting at longer distances. Once I was allowed to carry firearms I was seldom out of reach of a .22, dads .22 Hornet or .30-30. If I saw a coyote I was shooting, rock chucks, picket pins, badgers, beavers, or whatever. None of those calibers are considered long range rifles but they will do it. Just like the cap and ball revolvers… The more long range pistol shooting you do the luckier you get..
Most do not think of a handgun as a long-range proposition, because of perception. They haven't done it or seen it done regularly because they do not have access to a place to do it, most handgun shooting ranges going out to no more than 40-50 yards. Being a matter of practice, like everything else, there are just not a lot of practiced individuals out there due to this perception.

My initial training/introduction to long range handgun shooting, as I mentioned in the original post, was more about changing that perception than anything else. After that it just became a matter of practicing to become efficient, same as if it was 5 or 10 yards.
 
I think most folks subscribe to the 7yrd story and don't think its necessary to get better than that.. No doubt its fun shooting close fast stages but its also fun hitting smaller targets at distances. I can squeek out a 57 yrd shot in my back yard but its contrived . 50yrds is more reasonable/ safer in my available space. If I did have a 100yrd range I would absolutely have a hunk of steel down there. My 50yrd target is a 6" round steel. my best shot in my back yard that I am quite consistent at it 35yrds at a 5" steel circle but its an angled shot so you are not seeing the whole plate but a slimmed down version of it. Probably only looking at 3 inches wide from that angle. I am literally ecstatic every time I ring that plate from that spot.
 
Most people say 'well I never done that so I don't think anyone can'
Long ago the neighbor killed a couple of deer with a 1911 at roughly a hundred yards. Apparently they weren't his first. I never saw the man hunt with a riffle, but heard that he was proficient with them too.
 
After reading Elmer Keith, long range pistol shooting doesn't seem too difficult. It's mostly just the basics like trigger control, stability, not flinching, and knowing your gun. He'd walk the shots into the target and made many kills at 3-400 yards when the hunters he led had only wounded the animal with high power rifles.

You'd think a short barreled pistol would be a hindrance but according to Elmer it wasn't. Now that's something that seems incredible to me - shooting a pistol with a 2" barrel and hitting a target at several hundred yards!
 
Most do not think of a handgun as a long-range proposition, because of perception. They haven't done it or seen it done regularly because they do not have access to a place to do it, most handgun shooting ranges going out to no more than 40-50 yards. Being a matter of practice, like everything else, there are just not a lot of practiced individuals out there due to this perception.

My initial training/introduction to long range handgun shooting, as I mentioned in the original post, was more about changing that perception than anything else. After that it just became a matter of practicing to become efficient, same as if it was 5 or 10 yards.
Agree!
 
I think most folks subscribe to the 7yrd story and don't think its necessary to get better than that.. No doubt its fun shooting close fast stages but its also fun hitting smaller targets at distances. I can squeek out a 57 yrd shot in my back yard but its contrived . 50yrds is more reasonable/ safer in my available space. If I did have a 100yrd range I would absolutely have a hunk of steel down there. My 50yrd target is a 6" round steel. my best shot in my back yard that I am quite consistent at it 35yrds at a 5" steel circle but its an angled shot so you are not seeing the whole plate but a slimmed down version of it. Probably only looking at 3 inches wide from that angle. I am literally ecstatic every time I ring that plate from that spot.
Depends on the intended purpose. If it is gunfighting/self-defense then 7 yards is very important. For competition, hunting, fun or just popping at that nuisance coyote or woodchuck, then 100 yards becomes more pertinent. With a Walker, what are we more likely to be doing? I would argue though, the more accurate at 100 yards you make yourself, the more accurate a 7 or 50 you will be.
 
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