Who the heck made this Hawken rifle?

[Arkansas Paul]

So I'm pretty new and posted about a Hawken I recently purchased.
Well my dad has had this one for 20+ years and I don't think he's ever shot the darn thing.
I was talking to him about wanting to get into shooting the traditional MLs and he told me to take this one and use it.
The markings on the barrel simply say: Odessa Spain, .58 caliber, Black Powder Only.
That's the only markings on the entire gun.
Is there any way to tell who made it? Or any educated gueses?

I appreciate any info y'all have. Thanks.

 

[smo]

Odessa… in Spain..

They were an importer ..

Welcome too the Forum..
Enjoy your new rifle!

 

[azmntman]

You will likely find that rifle will out shoot you. Some of the European black powder barrels were just insanely accurate. Keep us posted.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

Odessa… in Spain..

I feel really stupid.
For some reason I assumed Odessa was a place in Spain. lol

 

[ETipp]

Its a nice looking rifle. Nothing fancy, just a good, solid hunting rifle. Just my kind.

Congrats.

 

[azmntman]

I feel really stupid.
For some reason I assumed Odessa was a place in Spain. lol

I watched a Johnny Carson segment when I was doing things I ought not have been doing back in high school. I was AMAZED later when I learned spaghetti did NOT grow on trees! It was super super realistic and VERY well done. Good stuff back in those days.

 

[longcruise]

Looks like an early CVA. Maybe mountain rifle early version. Barrel probably Spanish.

That's an all around North America do-all rifle. A little break in shooting and it will be a fine companion.

 

[longcruise]

Oh, and one other detail. It's not a Hawken but it's very much like the rifles that became popular in the 70's when anything "Hawken" was very popular.

 

[azmntman]

I'll Take it!

 

[Phil Coffins]

If you aren’t familiar with these guns the rifle has double set triggers. Before anything else check that the rifle isn’t loaded. Lower the hammer by pulling the hammer back just a bit and holding it then pull the front trigger to to lower then hammer to the nipple. In this position you can pull the rear trigger till it catches then a light pull on the front trigger will make a snap. That is the way to practice as much as you like without harming the rifle. I hope I’m not telling you what you already know, just trying to help.

 

[smo]

I feel really stupid.
For some reason I assumed Odessa was a place in Spain. lol

No worries…. I feel really old.

Welcome too the Forum

 

[Frontier's]

You sure it isn't Ardesa?

It's called a mountain rifle. Walnut stock. Very hard to find! I have one in 54cal.

 

[Mtman725]

Looks like a CVA mountain rifle. Later 70's

 

[Frontier's]

Looks like a CVA mountain rifle. Later 70's

No, it's not a cva mountain rifle.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

You sure it isn't Ardesa?

It is indeed Ardesa.

 

[Frontier's]

Ok awesome!!! You got one hell of a rifle there! That big 58cal is a machine. I'm not 100% sure if the 58s had a 1:72 twist or the typical 1:66 twist like my 54cal has.

It's a keeper!

 

[Mtman725]

It is indeed Ardesa.

Didn't Andesa make the for CVA ?

 

[BoomStick]

Didn't Andesa make the for CVA ?

Ardessa, jukar, dikar, CVA, traditions...all shared tooling or production lines in the 70s and 80s.
Welcome from SE PA

 

[Frontier's]

Traditions doesn't make anything, they are just a brand name. Kind of like when Lyman sold muzzleloaders with their name on it, but actually made by investarm.

 

[BoomStick]

Traditions doesn't make anything, they are just a brand name. Kind of like when Lyman sold muzzleloaders with their name on it, but actually made by investarm.

Yep. Wouldn't be surprised if the parent company in Spain is still jukar or ardessa. CVA and traditions are just the US importer name for the company.