Why not Pyrodex in a flintlock?

[Mogadishu Meanderer]

WOW! I'm 74 and learned a new word today! Thanks!

I guess I did too. I take it mean “potency”? I always thought that that word was related to horses! Well, thats I why I love this forum, you never stop learning here!

 

[Mogadishu Meanderer]

BTW: The device for measuring the puissance of black powder is called an eprouvette. Some resemble Rube Goldberg devices.

black powder eprouvette - Bing images

So cool, this one I knew. The device is similar to mortar but contained as to propel a plug to a certain measurable height based on the energy of the powder! I think I haven’t seen or heard this word in over 35 years!

 

[Mogadishu Meanderer]

BTW: The device for measuring the puissance of black powder is called an eprouvette. Some resemble Rube Goldberg devices.

black powder eprouvette - Bing images

Okie, I just loo at the pictures you posted, I guess it looks like a pistol with a wheel to measure the strength. For some reason I remembered been like a mortar, so I stand corrected.

 

[leadhoarder]

I guess I did too. I take it mean “potency”? I always thought that that word was related to horses! Well, thats I why I love this forum, you never stop learning here!

The horse is out of the barn now.

 

[Twisted_1in66]

Absolutely. Hot water dissolve it.

Of the BP substitutes that I have used with my cap and ball Pedersoli Kentucky Pistol (bought it in 1969), the "777" was the one I liked. Hot water works for all of them but you have to scrub a bit with the Pyrodex to get it clean and it fouls more than the 777. Pour a little water on the 777 and it will just about slough off. Hit it with Windex and it will slough off. I was also able to get the 777 to work every once in a while in my longrifle. It wasn't reliable by any stretch, so I only use real BP with my flintlocks. But surprisingly, occasionally that 777 would work. The Pyrodex...not a chance!

 

[deerstalkert]

saw an eprouvette on an episode of Storage Wars. little Texas gal found it. Experts told her it was worth nothing as no one would buy it.
Me, i was screaming at the **** tube " I'll buy it, I'll buy it!"
but then i am a gadgetaholic.

 

[toot]

Absolutely. Hot water dissolve it.

be careful with hot water, you will incur a phenomenon, called - FLASH RUST! then you will have another problem to deal with! just a thought.

 

[toot]

I guess I did too. I take it mean “potency”? I always thought that that word was related to horses! Well, thats I why I love this forum, you never stop learning here!

a new word,? how about you being POTENT, at 74?

 

[Britsmoothy]

be careful with hot water, you will incur a phenomenon, called - FLASH TARNISH! then you will have another problem but its no big deal with a little polishing! just a thought.

Fixed that for ya

 

[TFoley]

It is really like apples and oranges. Black Powder is an explosive with an ignition temperature of 350*. Pyrodex is Black Powder that has been treated with a coating that increases the ignition temperature to 740* thereby getting it classified as a propellant.

Granted, if you grind the Pyrodex, you will probably remove some of the coating so that some times it will ignite with a flint. However, it won't be reliable enough to be worth the effort.

Yup, and having read THAT tidbit of information, the rest of the folks here might just be able to figure out why Triple 7 got its name.......................

 

[TFoley]

WOW! I'm 74 and learned a new word today! Thanks!

French for 'power', as in 'Grande Puissance' = the original nomenclature for Browning-designed GP35 c*r*r*d*e-firing pistol of 1945.

Here is a non-illustrative picture -

 

[TFoley]

'Éprouvettes' come in many styles, from those that look like a pistol, but actually drive a graduated wheel around against a calibrated point, like the one shown in post #46 from Deerstalker, to those driving a piston either upwards or along a graduated track. The spiffiest of them all, to my mind, is one that actually blows a bullet-shaped load along a barrel, and looks like a proper gun with a slot in place of a barrel rib.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Watering down holy black is like watering down your favorite sipping wiskey.
You can do it but.... YUK
Leave the fake powder for the fake rifles. Its their thing, not ours.

 

[johnfrommd]

Watering down holy black is like watering down your favorite sipping wiskey.
You can do it but.... YUK
Leave the fake powder for the fake rifles. Its their thing, not ours.

And you have a limitless supply of BP I suppose?

 

[toot]

Yup, and having read THAT tidbit of information, the rest of the folks here might just be able to figure out why Triple 7 got its name.......................

how did it ger it's name? did I miss the memo?

 

[toot]

French for 'power', as in 'Grande Puissance' = the original nomenclature for Browning-designed GP35 c*r*r*d*e-firing pistol of 1945.

Here is a non-illustrative picture -

I am 77+++and I also learned a new word. now to use it in a sentence!

 

[Erwan]

It's a cheap way of increasing the " PUISSANCE" of the powder.

Attention avec PUISSANCE, c'est un mot qui a de nombreuses significations :
Be careful with PUISSANCE, it's a word with many meanings:

""Parvenir à la PUISSANCE se paie cher : la PUISSANCE abêtit. "
(Nietzsche)
Meaning : ""Achieving POWER is expensive: POWER is mind-numbing. ""

This pun is better when said in French...

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[Gordoncourtney]

Attention avec PUISSANCE, c'est un mot qui a de nombreuses significations :
Be careful with PUISSANCE, it's a word with many meanings:

""Parvenir à la PUISSANCE se paie cher : la PUISSANCE abêtit. "
(Nietzsche)
Meaning : ""Achieving POWER is expensive: POWER is mind-numbing. ""

This pun is better when said in French...

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Ha ha. Nice to read your bit Erwan. A poet even. French a beautiful language Your borders are now open according to DFDS ferries be it with a £50 PCR tests. But like the uk I bet it’s wet and cold down to Beritz I read more on the forum are over 70 good luck to them all. , so much knowledge for the forums Great news me being 79 in March. I wish you well Messing around with my stone mill it’s running too fast splashing this black stuff around the room , pissing the wife off , I had a clear up and scraped up a pile on the paper. Of course I am only using charcoal not allowed to make the real black stuff in uk. Ha ha.
I wish you well across the channel and across the pond cold as it is I did sent 30 shots 50 shots to my 50 yard target board. Pcp pump up air guns are a bit pissy but they do the job in my long garden. I get pissed off skinning squirrels but tasty they definitely are

 

[Erwan]

Your borders are now open according to DFDS ferries be it with a £50 PCR tests. But like the uk I bet it’s wet and cold down to Beritz

Hi,
Yep, the border is open and Macron pissing the people, that's our new way of life...
'bout the temps, it's today dark gray and 1°C (~33F) for La Rochelle, maybe something like 7 or 8°C for Biarritz (~44 or 46°F)...

For powder the grinder must turn very slowly and have heavy wheels (stones are the best) :
the slower the grinding and mixing and the finer and more homogeneous the mixture, the better...
Maybe with a speed reduction on the wiper motor. I also believe that the Chinese from Ali Express sell very slow little motors: they sell everything for nothing, pretty good for testing.....
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/3305...-1;9.02;-1;-1@salePrice;EUR;search-mainSearch
Thanks for the pictures.

Have a nice evening.

Erwan.

 

[Gordoncourtney]

Hi,
Yep, the border is open and Macron pissing the people, that's our new way of life...
'bout the temps, it's today dark gray and 1°C (~33F) for La Rochelle, maybe something like 7 or 8°C for Biarritz (~44 or 46°F)...

For powder the grinder must turn very slowly and have heavy wheels (stones are the best) :
the slower the grinding and mixing and the finer and more homogeneous the mixture, the better...
Maybe with a speed reduction on the wiper motor. I also believe that the Chinese from Ali Express sell very slow little motors: they sell everything for nothing, pretty good for testing.....
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/3305...-1;9.02;-1;-1@salePrice;EUR;search-mainSearch
Thanks for the pictures.

Have a nice evening.

Erwan.

Hello we were just looking at weather yes wet 8 degrees in Beritz. Our friend in Cahors complaint about bad weather over last two years , so wet, actually Anglars Juillac. Motorhomefun is the website for those rushing to the sun , it’s a bit naff. Tommy up in Maine USA on forum emails me , its sub zero snow an oh so cold . Not much hotter in Benidorm Spain. Canaries ok but priced with TUI gone up around £650 for 7 days too expensive for us usually £360. Go there most years if cheap deal .


those min motors are quite good as got them on my Rapido sat dish but they don’t last so I keep a spare like €8 each around 3 weeks from China I have a 25 rpm 12 v motor coming from China €14 should be here by 17 jan This one I am using is off a wire feed on a mig welder about 80 rpm far too fast but great fun , tried to slow it but no joy.? everywhere splattered with the black stuff, it’s a nice Victorian mini stone mill, we had a big one at out company big 5 ft dia stones , typical of a gunpowder wheel, terrifying to be near driven of gears teeth made of apple wood . I must make a stone tumbler nog paying £160 for one but I have made a tiny one for test mixtures

better stop or I will go on and on. Take care Joan and Gordon.
Ps french laws. What you cannot kill vermin with an air gun , some things are good in England