Love UnderHammers myself. The problem is not the people hunting with what the State allows. I Insurance Companies pushing hard to thin all the deer herds. My State does not have a per say ML/Primitive weapon season. They allow all CF of certain caliber pistols for past 8 years.
Why only one?
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if you already have some skill with a traditional bow a compound makes it easier.
It goes in waves.
For example, when the longhunts were begun, there are stories of them simply sitting by a salt spring a dropping several deer each day, the game was so plentiful. That was pretty much hiking and killing,
Where I live, especially after COVID, the deer are so plentiful that a hunter is allowed 10 doe and two bucks per season, but to take two buck the hunter needs to take two doe after the first buck to qualify to use the second buck stamp. That's four deer. Yet, when I was a boy, the herd here in my county was much much smaller, it was one buck only, and most of the folks that were deer hunters didn't hunt in my county, and some even went to adjoining states.
Today, go 80 miles and four counties away, and the deer population is much different, and their you need to stalk or still-hunt, and you may only take three deer per year, and only one buck, YET the human population is much less dense than in my county where you can take a dozen deer.
LD
Must be in the Carolina’s (or the south)? It’s wild how I can limit the take of 2 deer on a property I hunt for populations stability, then drive 25 miles and see 30 deer feeding in an alfalfa field here in Kansas.
It’s not just weapons, either. Baiting and food plots certainly have their place and wildlife benefits, but man it sure makes things easier. A lot could be said the same about ag fields, though. I don’t raise too much of a fuss over weapon upgrades, because it gets people out in the woods.
I'm not trying to pick a fight with you Charlie, but I'm going to make a few points of my own. I use a crossbow for archery season. I hunted with recurves and longbows for 30 years, lost vision in my left eye, my depth perception went south, and I couldn't in good conscious shoot at an animal if I wasn't sure I could make a good shot. Went to a compound for a couple of years, then got a neck injury, couldn't stand drawing the weight, even light weight bows. So, crossbow. Every deer I've killed with it I could have killed with a stick bow. If we're being honest, us hunters have a little bit of snob in us, no matter the season/weapon. Which may be a good thing. Black powder guys are no different. You use pyrodex, your side eyed, you hunt with a CVA, and not a few thousand dollar custom, your side eyed, you don't hunt with a flintlock, etc.. That's not the majority whatsoever, but it's there. So when WE buy hunting and fishing related items, it's OUR money per the Pittman-Robertson act that go to keep the wildlife and places to hunt going. Those with private land to hunt, God bless you. We all hunt for different reasons, look for different experiences, etc.. I'm not going to be the guy that says "you shouldn't be able to" (insert here). If it's legal, enjoy. In my opinion, television has ruined hunting, gimmick this and gimmick that, only can shoot 160 or better, blah blah blah. My favorite saying, "backstraps and tacos". I get mine with bolts, PRB's, and occasionally bullets. Good hunting to all, regardless of what you wear, or what you use, none of us are safe from the ANTI's. I think I had too much coffee.
Yessir. And more than once, I'm glad I had it.
What makes them "low life's"? If we are honest, how many of us hunt like our ancestors? I don't own a horse, I have to drive my truck to Game Lands. I hunt with an aluminum tree stand, wear rubber boots. Guess I'm a low life. We are discussing this on the Internet, not ye olde pub. Most of us just prefer a certain type of weapon. Which is your right. Divided WE fall.
HAS happen to me, i need to tell that story on here.HAHA O i forgot it happen twice.
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You should know by now that anything our elected politicians decide we need in the way a laws will be so screwed up it does little good. If you break one of their laws the judge at your trial wont know what to do but find you guilty and fine you.
Know someone who had a mountain lion getting ready to pounce him while he was tying his shoes bow hunting for turkey in the early am here in California. His spidey sense went off and he spun around just before it pounced. He made himself seem big, yelled and it fled. He went home for the day. As more and more of these encounters happen, I don't understand why a single hunter would not be allowed to carry a side arm for protection. The game wardens damn well know the difference in sound between a black power rifle and a pistol.
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I think you misunderstood or I misspoke, if you have need and you sound like it, by all means. There should be allowances for disability to level the field and get people who otherwise couldn’t hunt hunting. Wisconsin even allows remote hunting, using your laptop from home to aim to and fire for quadriplegic hunters. I could be wrong on the state. Anyway, using a crossbow for example may be compared to senior tees in golf. You get older, lose distance but still want to compete, the course has adjustments to allow that. But you don’t want Rory McIlroy using them. Primitive season, is meant to handicap hunters with primitive weapons. Like everything in sports, someone sells a fix and what I consider a cheat. If your healthy and want to hunt primitive, then you shouldn’t get a high tech, scoped single shot capable of matching a 30-30 in performance.
MezcalCharlie
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We can, and do in many places. But a handgun for defense doesn’t give the hunter unfair advantage in primitive season.
MezcalCharlie
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This will get me in trouble but I’ve never hunted over a food plot outside of shooting doves on a Milo field. I’ve hunted waterfowl with decoys, birds with dogs, and made big game a fair game. I have hunted in Texas on a 20,000 acre ranch where i stalked and glassed, closing the gap for a reasonable shot. Hunting. Others there would sit by feeders waiting for the deer to hear the spreader and come running. Hunt how you want but to me that isn’t hunting. Certainly not sport. And I’m not talking about someone too old to move around here. Able bodied men. And don’t get me started on the trophy ranches, sitting in a heated cabin on stilts waiting for the pampered penned in buck who’s never been pushed or harassed to come to his morning feed. Like shooting cattle in the chute. No sir. I want to hunt where there is a fair (as fair as can be) contest.
Sounds like we hunt the same. Lots of Ag in Kansas, but I’ve never once sat on a designed food plot
I don't know, but it seems like they make these laws for the worst case "what if" scenario, Like all hunters are looking to get away with something nefarious.
I made this, then learned that it is not legal to use during the M/L season.
I think the same about not being able to carry a pistol during archery season, even though in this state it takes a lot just to get a permit, let alone the double infringement of God given rights, but then that's going down a road best not traveled here.
Robin
Carrying an extra gun is just packing extra weight.
Very nice, thats one sexy double flinter !!!
