I have stopped trying to find a pistol to match my rifle so I have decided to build my own. I am fairly new at building guns and will be posting a lot of newbie questions so please bare with me. My first questions is will a lock with the measurements of 5-1/16" x 5/8" fit into a lock mortice area of 5 3/4" x 1 5/8"?
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Will lock fit?
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I must assume your reading some description of a lock and a stock.KW said:
If this is true, the direct answer is no.
A mortice that is 5 3/4 long is much too big for a lock that is only 5 1/16 long and I would question a mortice that is 1 5/8.
This dimension is usually the height of the lockplate and very few are that large.
Getting down to basics, even if some written description said the mortice was 5 1/16 long X 5/8, the same dimensions you gave for the lock, the chance of a lock fitting is slim and none unless you know that the mortice was made for exactly THAT lock.
This is because simply having the same general dimensions does not mean the shape is the same.
Now, if the stock was inletted for a "Large Siler" and you bought a Large Siler lock it would probably come close to fitting.
Even then, some wood removal is usually required to get the exact fit that a well made gun deserves.
That is why the pre-carved stocks that folks buy from the suppliers like Pecatonica River, Chambers, Track of the Wolf etc require some hand fitting to get the lock installed.
Hope this answers your question.
oops yup I see now that that was a vague question 
Here goes some more details
The stock I was looking at getting is the trapper pistol stock with the one inch barrel channel from Pecatonica River Long Rifle supply. Although it does have the channel the mortice is not inletted. the website says this
Specifications:
Lock, Trigger and Tang Inletting Available
Overall length 16"
Barrel channel length 10 1/2"
Barrel channel size 15/16" and 1"
Lock mortice area 1 5/8" x 5 3/4"
Width at lock 1 3/4"
Ramrod hole size 3/8"
I would really like to use either a T/C cap lock or a L&R replacement T/C cap lock on this pistol so that it matches my rifle. I used the measurements from L&R (DIMENSIONS: 5-1/16 X 1") because I couldn't find any on the T/C lock, but since it is a replacement I figured this was a safe assumption (knowing though that the L&R spring is different so requires a bit deeper mortice). I hope this provides a little clearer picture to what I would like to do. So is it possible to mate these two together?
Here goes some more details The stock I was looking at getting is the trapper pistol stock with the one inch barrel channel from Pecatonica River Long Rifle supply. Although it does have the channel the mortice is not inletted. the website says this
Specifications:
Lock, Trigger and Tang Inletting Available
Overall length 16"
Barrel channel length 10 1/2"
Barrel channel size 15/16" and 1"
Lock mortice area 1 5/8" x 5 3/4"
Width at lock 1 3/4"
Ramrod hole size 3/8"
I would really like to use either a T/C cap lock or a L&R replacement T/C cap lock on this pistol so that it matches my rifle. I used the measurements from L&R (DIMENSIONS: 5-1/16 X 1") because I couldn't find any on the T/C lock, but since it is a replacement I figured this was a safe assumption (knowing though that the L&R spring is different so requires a bit deeper mortice). I hope this provides a little clearer picture to what I would like to do. So is it possible to mate these two together?
Ah!
Now I see what your referring to.
The 1 5/8 X 5 3/4 is giving the dimensions of the flat lock panel on the side of the stock.
The actual lock plate must be smaller than this or there won't be sufficient material to inlay the lock into.
A lock plate that is 5 1/6 long X 1 inch tall is smaller than the stocks panel so it could fit.
Notice I said "could". This lock is rather large for a pistol so there may be some problems with how that lock will mate with the barrel.
I am not familiar with how his barrel channel and lock panel relate to each other.
There is a definite relationship between the barrels breech area and the locks hammer. That is to say the barrel tells the lock where it has to be and the length of the barrel channel in your pre-inlet stock blank defines where the barrel will be in relation to the lock panal.
It is probably all right as it is supplied but I would strongly recommend that you call Dick Greensides at 1-815-968-1995 and tell him exactly what you are planning on doing.
Tell him which lock you want to use and ask him if his stock blank will work with that combination.
Dick is a great guy and he knows his stuff so he will be able to tell you exactly how well your selected parts will work with his stock blank.
He may be able to rough cut the mortice for you if you want to pay him a few bucks extra.
By the way, his prices for cutting sight dovetails, installing breech plugs etc are some of the most inexpensive I've found anywhere.
Now I see what your referring to.
The 1 5/8 X 5 3/4 is giving the dimensions of the flat lock panel on the side of the stock.
The actual lock plate must be smaller than this or there won't be sufficient material to inlay the lock into.
A lock plate that is 5 1/6 long X 1 inch tall is smaller than the stocks panel so it could fit.
Notice I said "could". This lock is rather large for a pistol so there may be some problems with how that lock will mate with the barrel.
I am not familiar with how his barrel channel and lock panel relate to each other.
There is a definite relationship between the barrels breech area and the locks hammer. That is to say the barrel tells the lock where it has to be and the length of the barrel channel in your pre-inlet stock blank defines where the barrel will be in relation to the lock panal.
It is probably all right as it is supplied but I would strongly recommend that you call Dick Greensides at 1-815-968-1995 and tell him exactly what you are planning on doing.
Tell him which lock you want to use and ask him if his stock blank will work with that combination.
Dick is a great guy and he knows his stuff so he will be able to tell you exactly how well your selected parts will work with his stock blank.
He may be able to rough cut the mortice for you if you want to pay him a few bucks extra.
By the way, his prices for cutting sight dovetails, installing breech plugs etc are some of the most inexpensive I've found anywhere.
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