I have been making pouches for 40 years, the best thing to remember is try to think 18th century- How would a frontiersman make one? I also can tell you that there is alot of work in a pouch, whenyou see a nice one for sale that looks like a cheap price it is- until a person makes some they don't have a real apreciatition for the time it takes to make one- i myself don't try and sell the because to me there is never enought money offered for them, so i have a good selection and the older they get the better they look. TGP