Wrapped bird shot

[GREENSWLDE]

I've been thinking about 28 gauge plastic wads for my .54 cal smoothy pistol. Would they work?

May be alright on short pistol barrels but in shot guns you can have Plastic Lined barrels.QED. O.D.

 

[Freedom]

I've been thinking about 28 gauge plastic wads for my .54 cal smoothy pistol. Would they work?

You will not see any pattern improvement. The velocity/pressures are just too low to cause the plastic shot-cup to preform.

 

[Nuthatch]

They would also make paper tubes, and pour in melted beeswax, and allow that to harden to try and get a tighter pattern at distance.

LD

Has anybody tried this for themselves? I'm curious how much spread there would be vs slugging. I have a ton of beeswax at my disposal but wouldn't mind hearing somebody else's experience with this before going through all the effort of trying it out.

 

[Bushfire]

View attachment 152673I do something similar for my .62 caliber Fusil de Chasse. Each cartridge contains about 70 grains of #6 shot for squirrel hunting. I load 65 grains of 2f, then one of these cartridges. Makes it simple.

I've got a very 101 question.

So you're just twisting and folding the top of the paper? Does that affect the groups?

I'm thinking for duck and quail season this is probably the way to go.

 

[Walkabout]

I made some aluminum foil shot cartridges for my smoothy pistol. I'm wondering if I should add an over powder wad or load as is. I'll see how they work next weekend.

 

[smo]

I played around with shot cartridge’s a few years back and found what I was doing wasn’t consistent… as far as patterns go.

I used brown paper grocery bags and no glue.
I folded a crimp on each end of the shot and seated that onto the charge..

Not all of them opened up…. Even at 25 yards …

 

[Walkabout]

Add a string and drag....it is amazing how far you can pattern a smoothie. Pistol!View attachment 152793View attachment 152799
This rabbit target was shot with a 5 inch barreled 12bore Derringer!!...after loading, the shot-cup was less than 2 inches from the muzzle.

Interesting, I'd like to know how those cartridges are constructed.

 

[Bigpete]

Add a string and drag....it is amazing how far you can pattern a smoothie. Pistol!View attachment 152793View attachment 152799
This rabbit target was shot with a 5 inch barreled 12bore Derringer!!...after loading, the shot-cup was less than 2 inches from the muzzle.

Thats a very cool trick !

 

[jlatz]

I have been using a 28 ga. flint fowler for a while. The 34 ounce shot load and an equal volume of powder works well. I use a tight over powder wad, half a cushion wad and a good over shot wad. This load patterns well.

 

[TarponStalker]

I have been using a 28 ga. flint fowler for a while. The 34 ounce shot load and an equal volume of powder works well. I use a tight over powder wad, half a cushion wad and a good over shot wad. This load patterns well.

34 ounces?

 

[Freedom]

3/4..oz

 

[Zutt-man]

Boredom creates curiosity.
I have sheets of nitrated paper laying around, so I made a tube out of some pieces. Closed one end and filled the tube with #7 lead shot and then closed the top. The tube was close to bore size for my .69 calibre Charleville. 60 grains FFg, an over powder wad and aimed at a paper target at 25 yards. A nice clean hole in the target. The paper firmly held the shot in place, instead of shredding as I hoped it would do. Several shots yielded the same results.
Just something different and fun to try.

I was under the impression one was supposed to cut the folded top off before sending it down the barrel?

 

[Zutt-man]

They would also make paper tubes, and pour in melted beeswax, and allow that to harden to try and get a tighter pattern at distance.

LD

Just so I understand… pouring beeswax into the shot cup which already contains shot, correct?

 

[shorthair]

Pretty slick for that time period, some modern weaponry uses the same sort of aerodynamic and ballistic combo, like a sabot. With this device, I'm thinking more canister round than Shrapnel.

Always amazed at just how brilliant some of these old folks were, no personal computer either.

 

[WALT53]

Boredom creates curiosity.
I have sheets of nitrated paper laying around, so I made a tube out of some pieces. Closed one end and filled the tube with #7 lead shot and then closed the top. The tube was close to bore size for my .69 calibre Charleville. 60 grains FFg, an over powder wad and aimed at a paper target at 25 yards. A nice clean hole in the target. The paper firmly held the shot in place, instead of shredding as I hoped it would do. Several shots yielded the same results.
Just something different and fun to try.

You leave the top open flush with the shot then put in your OS card then shoot ,what you did was make slug.

 

[shorthair]

34 ounces?

That would probably be more than the barrel would hold.

 

[TCMonts]

I've considered something like that myself. Now I'll Have to try it.

Add a string and drag....it is amazing how far you can pattern a smoothie. Pistol!View attachment 152793View attachment 152799
This rabbit target was shot with a 5 inch barreled 12bore Derringer!!...after loading, the shot-cup was less than 2 inches from the muzzle.

 

[William Sublette]

In my misspent youth I put a big t- shirt cleaning patch over the muzzle of my 50 cal GPR, and filled it with the shot from a regular AA trap load.


Seated it like a ball.


I broke few close range hand thrown blue rocks with it.

 

[BillinOregon]

I am fascinated by the Sporting Shrapnel concept. It would have necessitated a loading rod with a hole in the center to slip over the spindle and keep it true while seating.

 

[Sam squanch]

If they weren’t a collector item, it would be a great experiment to shoot them.