Packing with grease

45D · Nov 27, 2021

No second place,
I'm sorry but in no way does it affect trigger or any other action part. As far as adding "work" . . . there is no adding work. It comes from me already packed. All you have to do is shoot it, clean the barrel/cyl and wipe down the frame and shoot it some more . . . don't know what could be more simple than that. I know shooters that shoot 3 day matches and never do more than wipe the revolver off from day to day. There's no flushing with Breakfree or anything else (added work) But hey, whatever makes ya Happy !!!!

Mike

Flintlock · Nov 27, 2021

Packing a revolver with grease. Sounds like total BS to me. I take it that advice came from someone who has nevered carried a gun outdoors. Hot they drip, in cold weather they won't function. Oil the blessed thing like was intended and use it.

Whughett · Nov 27, 2021

Bad Karma said:
I’m not sure the design does ”allow moisture and condensation to drain and evaporate“ at least not by design, perhaps accidentally. I doubt the manufacturers have even heard of grease packing. I am certain that if Sam Colt had heard of packing with synthetic grease during the percussion era he’d have included it in the original instructions. It works that well.
I’ve been packing for a couple or three years. I do this for all of my revolvers whether I shoot them a lot or a little. It’s protected the innards of all of them without fail. Thousands of rounds without a bobble. It works. I don’t have any action shields but it still works perfectly. If I did have action shields I expect the grease would stay almost as clean as it went in.

pack ’em boys! You won’t regret it…

Tell you what fellows. Pack with the grease. Shoot a thousand or so rounds of cap and ball, or paper or brass black powder cartridges then open her open and let us know what that grease looks like. All that smoke and soot around the bolt and hand opening behind the hammer slot, it even gets into the grips, mixing in then moved around with the action motion. Naw tried that. Wasn’t happy. JMO.

45D · Nov 27, 2021

Flintlock said:
Packing a revolver with grease. Sounds like total BS to me. I take it that advice came from someone who has nevered carried a gun outdoors. Hot they drip, in cold weather they won't function. Oil the blessed thing like was intended and use it.

That's quite alright whatever you want to think but the competition crowd was doing it long before I found out they did so you can obviously do whatever you want. BS is BS and if that's what you think that's OK with me! I don't really care what you think. This is an open forum so go for it!
Hot they drip lol!! Cold they won't function !!! That's the reason for Mobil1 . . . it doesn't do either of those things. Please tell us more about this "blessed oil" you speak of . . .

Mike

45D · Nov 27, 2021

For those of you that will shoot a 1000 rounds and then look at your action parts, they'll probably be in excellent shape. Mobil1 is excellent stuff. If it's dark after that many rounds, that means it's doing its job. If that's as much as you know about lubricants, dont ever look at the oil on your dipstick , you'll FREAK!!!!

Mike

Flintlock · Nov 27, 2021

45D said:
That's quite alright whatever you want to think but the competition crowd was doing it long before I found out they did so you can obviously do whatever you want. BS is BS and if that's what you think that's OK with me! I don't really care what you think. This is an open forum so go for it!
Hot they drip lol!! Cold they won't function !!! That's the reason for Mobil1 . . . it doesn't do either of those things. Please tell us more about this "blessed oil" you speak of . . .

Mike

The OP said nothing about mobile 1. I've carried a multitude of firearms in extreme conditions for going onto 50 years and know if they are not lubed properly they can and will fail especially in extreme cold.

Blackpowderwarrior · Nov 27, 2021

This thread is becoming quite amusing.

45D · Nov 27, 2021

Flintlock,

If you shoot in climates colder than -35° F then that's fine. If you don't then you're just blowin smoke!! Why don't you tell us what wonderful lubes you use or . . . maybe it's a secret. . . ooooh !

Mike

Flintlock · Nov 27, 2021

45D said:
Flintlock,

If you shoot in climates colder than -35° F then that's fine. If you don't then you're just blowin smoke!! Why don't you tell us what wonderful lubes you use or . . . maybe it's a secret. . . ooooh !

Mike

I can see it's a weekenend and your half soused and thinking highly of yourself so explaining to a angry self rightous child will do no good.

CaptainKirk · Nov 27, 2021

Mobil 1 works. I have several of Mike's guns that came to me packed to the gills with it and haven't had to gut one of them yet, nor has it leaked or squeezed out. Of course, I've never shot a 1,000 round day in my life so take that for what it's worth. I also use Lubriplate AA630 with great results, but don't pack the innards; just a good solid coating on everything that moves.

45D · Nov 27, 2021

Flintlock said:
I can see it's a weekenend and your half soused and thinking highly of yourself so explaining to a angry self rightous child will do no good.

Figures you'd say that.
Out of ammo already?

Mike

Gee Dog · Nov 28, 2021

BS is as BS does. Flint, not quite the ideal register for a collegial discussion. Who's been drinkin, now?

William Lincoln · Nov 28, 2021

I will try the packing method and see what results. Packing moving parts with
grease is not new. back in the day machinery was packed in lard and then
petroleum grease and everything else. I have a library of six gun books and
manuals including factory maintenance instructions. It is just a new idea.
If you bring it up here you will get comments and your idea will get examined.
This is not a peanut gallery of yes men. It is an open forum. For one hundred
and seventy years revolvers were not packed with grease, Nor was it
recommended. But as you say, it might not have been considered or tried
and the new synthetics might make possible today what was not yesterday.
It is worth a try because it is labor-saving. By March I will know if it is a
viable option for me and I will report back with photos.

Zapadach · Nov 28, 2021

No second place said:
I have found it interesting how some of my fellow shooters find so many ways to add more work than needed to keep their guns in good working order. I`m including fellow match shooters I highly respect. So...Grease packing? Not a good idea for a serious match shooter as it will effect trigger consistency and cause malfunctions from floating cap bits. The good news is you don`t have to strip down every part of your single shots or revolvers but about 500 rounds. Barrels and cylinders must be cleaned and greased but locks and revolver innards work great if well flushed with Breakfree or other foaming oil. Even WD-40 flush followed with oil. This has worked well for me since before 1996. These same pistols work very well in matches currently using this work saving cleaning protocol...c

I have been doing this very same thing with my revolvers for years and it works great.

Bad Karma · Nov 28, 2021

Whughett said:
Tell you what fellows. Pack with the grease. Shoot a thousand or so rounds of cap and ball, or paper or brass black powder cartridges then open her open and let us know what that grease looks like. All that smoke and soot around the bolt and hand opening behind the hammer slot, it even gets into the grips, mixing in then moved around with the action motion. Naw tried that. Wasn’t happy. JMO.

It looks nasty. I’ve done this quite a few times over now. My favorites all see over a thousand rounds a year in all weather conditions from hot to cold. When they’re stripped the grease is black as expected but when it’s cleaned away the parts are corrosion free and yes that grease also prevents wear anywhere there’s metal on metal contact.

Everyone ought to do as they see fit. You can pull barrel and cylinder, clean them while hosing down the guts with clp or something like that. Grease them. Or strip them down and run them thru an autoclave. Whatever your comfort level is… just keep shooting them and keeping these old guns alive. We might be the penultimate generation free to do so but I intend to leave behind the knowledge and equipment to run them forever.

No second place · Nov 28, 2021

45D said:
No second place,
I'm sorry but in no way does it affect trigger or any other action part. As far as adding "work" . . . there is no adding work. It comes from me already packed. All you have to do is shoot it, clean the barrel/cyl and wipe down the frame and shoot it some more . . . don't know what could be more simple than that. I know shooters that shoot 3 day matches and never do more than wipe the revolver off from day to day. There's no flushing with Breakfree or anything else (added work) But hey, whatever makes ya Happy !!!!

Mike

Should have been more clear. I was referring to what NMLRA / NRA Championship winners do. I have seen many lower level and low placing shooters do many things at the state, local and even Nat. Championships. Many of the same guys like to use hot 25-35 grain loads or better yet a BP substitute. Some have been making the same mistakes for 10-20 years or more.Yes, they are many and they are match shooters of many years...c

Whughett · Nov 28, 2021

45D said:
Flintlock,

If you shoot in climates colder than -35° F then that's fine. If you don't then you're just blowin smoke!! Why don't you tell us what wonderful lubes you use or . . . maybe it's a secret. . . ooooh !

Mike

I get it you don’t like people disagreeing with you, I mean who does, but why get all snarky about it. Why be an A O about it.

Tenring · Nov 28, 2021

No second place said:
I have found it interesting how some of my fellow shooters find so many ways to add more work than needed to keep their guns in good working order. I`m including fellow match shooters I highly respect. So...Grease packing? Not a good idea for a serious match shooter as it will effect trigger consistency and cause malfunctions from floating cap bits. The good news is you don`t have to strip down every part of your single shots or revolvers but about 500 rounds. Barrels and cylinders must be cleaned and greased but locks and revolver innards work great if well flushed with Breakfree or other foaming oil. Even WD-40 flush followed with oil. This has worked well for me since before 1996. These same pistols work very well in matches currently using this work saving cleaning protocol...c

I do the same thing and all pistols run rust free and smooth, Don’t Complicate life it’s hard enough without worrying about clean guns.

Whughett · Nov 28, 2021

Who knows could be our ancestors packed their 1860’s,51’s, Walkers and NMA’s with hog fat. For sure they didn’t use automotive or another petroleum grease.
My only opposition was it hampered my normal cleaning routine.

William Lincoln · Nov 28, 2021

Summing it all up, for the average guy this grease packing idea sounds good. By
bringing it up, more guys are trying it. Experience and time will tell--but it is a
good idea to try it. It would save extra work for us and drudgery for others.
The type of grease might be the key here. If it doesn't run a lot and stays in the
internals then great. Frankly, it could be a great advance. I'm trying it out and
we have to thank the forum members for bringing the idea to our attention.

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