Home Made Percussion Caps Review
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rhart
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I wonder how the DUCO glue would work for making paper cartridges. I've noticed that the larger pieces of unburnt paper appear to be from where two pieces pf paper were glued together (like the bottom cup to the cartridge shell).
rhart
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I watched an interesting youtube video that showed a guy dissolving the aluminum pop/soda/sodapop can (bottom third of it) and there was a clear plastic liner that still held the liquid in. Wondering what effect that might have on the priming compound coming loose and crumbling out - assuming the inner can formed the inner part of the homemade cap. Then there is the paint on the outer can. I like the idea of using .005" or .006" sheet copper for the caps.
johnetattoo
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Works great. I've used it for that as well.
rhart
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I'll have to give it a try. Are there any special procedures to make it as convenient as the normal glue sticks?
johnetattoo
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It dries pretty quickly so working fast is a must. I only made about ten cartridges with it. I did dilute it with acetone, apply with a dropper and go quickly. Glue sticks are easier. Really just eyeballed the dilution and can't say how much of each I used.
tgfrench
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You use the painted side for the inside of the caps
Would diluting the Duco with Acetone make a difference? I make flying model airplanes, and Duco is often diluted up to 50%. Soaks into the balsa wood better. That might cut out a step in the process, as the acetone would already be in there.
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The Duco Cement is too thick to work with.You would use up a tube in 50 caps. With it thinned out( I use three drops in a tablespoon of acetone) I can bind a hundred . Still have the rest of the tube for many hundreds more. As with any binder if its too strong it will slow or stop the action of the prime.
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Is anyone marketing a Musket cap size swage.
#11 are fiddley to use and certainly to make. Musket cap size would address both problems. Musket cap nipples are easy to find. Musket caps are more reliable too.
#11 are fiddley to use and certainly to make. Musket cap size would address both problems. Musket cap nipples are easy to find. Musket caps are more reliable too.
oldsmokey
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Relax and enjoy the fun of muzzleloading. Over 40 yrs and I'm still a big kid when it comes to planning a shoot and I really enjoying getting ready for it each time.
Maybe a tiny scoop like coke-heads used back in the 1980s.
I’m new to the forum as of today, but I have experimented with the cap maker and primall as well as legends of the west paper caps. I’ve used aluminum cans and .005 brass to make caps. I mix up my primal on a piece of paper then put it in a plastic medicine bottle. I use the small primall scoop and put it in the caps using a paper funnel. I have a small glass medicine bottle I fill with acetone and 3 or 4 drops of duco cement and shake it up. I put a drop into each cap. After I take a paper cap I punched out with a star shaped paper punch and push that in with a small drill on top of the mix. The 5 legs of the star shaped cap help hold the mix in place as well. You can use a round punch as well it will work fine also. I try to get the cap in while the mix is still wet also. It will help anchor the cap better. I put the cap in red side facing out. I have also used nitrated coffee filters punched out instead of caps. They work really well also. The problem with caps is you may get some paper debris in the nipple but it hasn’t created a problem for me yet. I’ve had great results without the caps or nitrated paper, just using the duco/ acetone mix also. I am going to try some ideas I learned from some of you also!? I like the idea of using a drill press or arbor press to apply even pressure to the punch. I’ve always used a hammer before, but I would get a lot of messed up caps. Applying slow even pressure sounds like it could be just the ticket to consistency and less wear and tear on the dies as well!
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A drill press ,arbor press and reloading press can be used for better production and better quality cups. A fairly stout drill press is the easy way to begin. The pop can is folded over the long way.I can get 51 double wall cups out of a can. As you can see the maker is mounted upside down.The cups fall through the punch and through a hole in the board and into a plastic jar. Production is as high as 600 per hour and I am the slowest. The die set is now on a reloading press with leverage mods.Speeds are still the same. The real problem with the die set is the too loose fit of the punch into the die body. Something can be done about that too.
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What a great solution! Only drill press I have right now is a small bench top press. Not a lot of leverage but I could add a longer piece of tubing to one of the handles I suppose.
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Only you can judge if yours is robust enough. On a bigger drill press like mine it's easy The platform needs to be strong too. If you are only using a single layer pop can,You would likely be ok. Double layer or .005 brass really ups the effort.
Ordered a #11 die and prime all from 22lrsharpshooters on the second and still waiting.
Ordered a #10 die and prime all from 5ddefense this sunday and it arrived today.
Mixed acetone and duco at 10:1 made up a couple dozen to try out tomorrow.
Hopefully avoid anymore crazy road trips for caps in the future.
Ordered a #10 die and prime all from 5ddefense this sunday and it arrived today.
Mixed acetone and duco at 10:1 made up a couple dozen to try out tomorrow.
Hopefully avoid anymore crazy road trips for caps in the future.
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Great article.
I agree completely.
I would cut up soda cans and cut them into strips. And away I went. Lol
The powder mix was great and worked fine. Minus the human error.
Where I had issues was finding something small to put the power in.
My hands aren't as steady as they use to be.
Yes a few misfires. Some I think had a little to much.
But all in all, for wasting lead and shooting , when the commercial ones are hard to find.
It's well worth the money.just be patient.
Mark
Now that it is almost impossible to find caps and the prices continue to rise when you do THIS IS it looks to be an even better option.
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ernbar
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I wouldn’t say impossible. I received an order from Graff for the 4th of July sale waiving the hazmat fee. I also found them at Basspro near me last week. Some Walmarts have them for $6 a tin. You just got to search.
