here is a Kibler fowler i done about a month ago. i have it for sale but it has been sitting dormant, so this morning i played around with a peep sight i put under the rear screw. this was 50yds off the bench. i could also hit 3x6 steel targets off hand. i might take it deer hunting Saturday morning. our season opened Aug. 15-jan1 i am digging the smooth bore,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,