As someone who used bore butter for several years, I was satisfied with it, but the accuracy wasn't quite what I wanted so I looked for something else for patch Lube. Was out with a friend who shoots A 50 percussion and accuracy wasn't real good at 50 yards, I had some old patches with me that were set up withbore butter, so I said here try these. Don't you know that the group went from 5 inches to about two inches or less. What works for some doesn't work for others.
when were shooting here in the winter ( NW corner of Minnesota ) we keep our patches in our pants or coat pockets and have no problem with bore butter freezingI had a problem with bore butter one time when I was living in Vermont. It was a sunny winter day and the temperature had risen to about 11° if I recall correctly. Went to a quarry a few miles from my house and went to set up some targets, but left my hammer behind. So I leaned a few things against the wall and then proceeded to load my rifle. I pulled the bore butter out to lube the patch and the darn tube was frozen solid. So I took that tube back up to the target area and used it to hammer in the brads I'd brought to mount some paper targets.
then I'd put a patch in my mouth (spit patch) and after I poured the powder down the bore, I put the patch on the muzzle and my lead ball over it to finish loading. As long as I didn't put the patch down before putting it on the muzzle under the ball, it loaded and fired just fine. So the bore butter was pretty worthless in freezing weather for its designed function, but sure made a good hammer for mounting targets in freezing weather.
And then I came back to the Muzzleloading forum to see what folks used in freezing weather, came across Stumpy's Moose Snot formula, and have been using that paste patch lube for the last 20-years. It doesn't freeze in freezing temperatures and doesn't turn into liquid during the summer either. it's about the consistency of paste shoe polish.
Hmmm...... seems that web site wants you to buy their product and not CLP. CLP has been used by the US military since the 80's without issue . Any oil will collect debris and I agree a dedicated cleaner followed by a dedicated preserving/lubricating oil is the best, but I have never heard of anyone having corrosion or build up issues on thread from CLP. If you're getting corrosion because of CLP build up you are not cleaning properly or regularly.
I did not pre-treat my patches then nor do I do it now. My Bore Butter was in a plastic tube that I had set on a stump, while I arranged my gear for the shoot and set up the targets. It froze as hard as a rock, so I used it to hammer in the brads.
Then no worries mate! Substitutes work great with percussion cap pistols, rifles, and cannons.
Thanks! I couldn't afford it at the time but bought it anyway. She's a sweet one and is a pleasure to use.
I suppose the biggest reason I had no trouble with bore butter is that I'm not out there in the winter time shooting. I'm one of them fair weather hunters and when fall's over so is my hunting. The bad thing about the Montana muzzleloader season that they just started a few years ago, is that it doesn't open till regular season ends at the end of November. I think it's designed for tough people.
Regards the dehumidifier rod, which I have been pondering, any idea what the humidity value is inside your safe?
I agree with you 100% ! 90% of most problems are people not knowing what to do to clean a rifle for storage. I have used a lot Of Pyrodex and haven't had any problem with the exception of flash rust which I dare say will happen regardless of the powder you may use. Don't think that people don't have problem with modern rifles/pistols as well. I have no idea how many firearrms I have repaired with only a good cleaning. Bottom line shoot your rifle and then clean it and don't wait till tomorrow.
That makes perfect sense to me.
sure it contains water, a lot of liquids has a water base. but you do not use it hot or even luke warm to cause flash rust. wipe it dry then oil and no rust! also when you are pouring water down the bore it will get under the barrel, Windex is controlled with the pump spray and it does not take much to melt the burnt powder. also another thing that works without chance of rust is WD40 it also melts burnt powder.
Use Ballistol and never look back! It's a cleaner, lube, rust inhibitor, use on leather, won't harm your wood, multi-use, instructions on can for different uses.
