Uncle Miltie
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If you want to know if something is a good investment look at what the younger generation is buying.....
Do you think that modern ML firearms have any investment value?
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I am not selling anymore so I buy now knowing that in many cases it will be up in price later and it will be harder to afford. OTOH, some stuff goes with the political climate or with the market saturation. Early 2000s a black rifle cost a lot. Now they can’t give them away. However Ruger revolvers used to be inexpensive. Now they aren’t. Same with Marlins.
As to BP replica revolvers, I remember even a few years ago, they were priced a lot less than today. I still want them. I think they will continue to climb in value.
As to BP replica revolvers, I remember even a few years ago, they were priced a lot less than today. I still want them. I think they will continue to climb in value.
When it's cheap... buy it and save it for later. Always great for barter.
Guns are a lousy investment. But really nice guns are actually free. If you blow a few thousand dollars on a gun you get to use it for a few years, then sell it and get back the money that you have into it. Maybe even make a few dollars. At least as long as you don't wreck it. The money is tied up for a while. It is not gone. When you hear about some rich guy spending $20 million on a painting, he is not actually spending anything. He is just sticking his money up on the wall.
If they are a production gun, doubtful they will gain value. A quality hand made rifle should gain in value by the time your great grand kids are ready to sell them. If they keep up with inflation.
On the other hand, I bought dozens of milsurps over the years, that have sky rocketed in price. Look at guns on Antiques Roadshow. Grandpa's old musket isn't worth as much as the family thought, in most cases.
On the other hand, I bought dozens of milsurps over the years, that have sky rocketed in price. Look at guns on Antiques Roadshow. Grandpa's old musket isn't worth as much as the family thought, in most cases.
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The investment value I see is that, if taken care of, they can last several more generations, unlike the cheap electronic crap the current generation is spending money on that will be obsolete and outmoded in a few months..(okay the guns I like were obsolete and outmoded a couple of centuries ago.) Just hoping that even if my kids and grandkids aren't into shooting muzzleloaders, maybe they'll keep at least one of them to hang on a wall to remember the goofy old grandpa who got such a kick out making noise and smoke.
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No. I doubt any of us will see another time like we saw three years ago, when anything that went bang brought crazy prices. Maybe if these things really tank in value, it will be possible to time the market and realize a profit, but I doubt "investing" in production black powder firearms will ever produce a rate of return that beats the rate of inflation. Enjoyment - yes. Profit - no.
After watching the auctions I am seeing lower prices on the custom rifles. Unless they are 20yrs. old, none sell for the builder's original price. Even the big name builder's rifles don't bring big money. Maybe in 20yrs. inflation will make you some money, but that isn't a real profit. The high rollers are aging out of the hobby. The younger folks have other priorities.
Paul-in-PA
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Condition - Condition - Condition. A used and abused firearm, be it centerfire or ML, is a depreciating asset. Shoot them and enjoy them, just don't always think that you will make money on them. In my lifetime I have made money and lost money on firearms; but I have always enjoyed shooting them.
As I have said before: “Use them and don’t worry about a scratch. “. After you are gone your kids will sell them for 50 cents on the dollar to buy a bass boat or something anyway.
Years back, it was challenging to acquire antique/collectible firearms. Travel to shows, paper catalogs, print magazines, networks of similar-minded people were required to find/fix/sell. Kinda like getting a case of beer before you were 21, the process and challenges were exciting and fun. You really had to know the right people to get what you were after.
Now, anyone with internet access and a valid credit card can find and acquire anything. Probably affects monetary values more than I can appreciate. Definitely limits the fun we once had. I daresay, were it not for the internet and forums such as this here one, now that my buds are dead, my interest in muzzle loading had darn near fizzled out. I am "making money" on stuff no longer needed, bought 50 years ago - but the "profit" is in great memories, not coin of the realm.
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Now, anyone with internet access and a valid credit card can find and acquire anything. Probably affects monetary values more than I can appreciate. Definitely limits the fun we once had. I daresay, were it not for the internet and forums such as this here one, now that my buds are dead, my interest in muzzle loading had darn near fizzled out. I am "making money" on stuff no longer needed, bought 50 years ago - but the "profit" is in great memories, not coin of the realm.
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I am seeing the same model TC flintlock listing for $600-700 . I paid $250 in 2016. Had them on a table at local gun show for $500 and to takers. You can only get what people will pay.
Didn’t really want to sell them ,just making room for different ones.
Didn’t really want to sell them ,just making room for different ones.
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I think you got your dates or models mixed up. Colt Anacondas were not around in 1985.A muzzle loading gun made by a well noted custom maker will hold its value and will be worth more to someone who knows their value. Same is true with modern guns - Colt for example. Any Colt is worth more now than a few years ago. I was offered a lightly used Colt Anaconda for $200 back in 1985 - I passed because it was something I did not want or need. I also passed on a as new used 4" Colt Diamondback at $190 in 1986 - check the prices of any snake gun now a days. I still regret not buying these two revolvers to this day.
I have a few new in box guns that I will pass on to my son and let him decide what he wants to do with them. For now, I like the thought of having them in my collection and admire them from time to time. Same with my knife collection both folding and fix bladed ones. One does not collect for the thought of selling for a profit but for the enjoyment..
It defiantly was a Colt Anaconda and yes, I could have the date wrong but not the price. My friend had it and needed the money. It was not something I wanted.
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As a collector, not in my lifetime. I do have a few scarce BP revolvers, like a Patterson from and long defunct manufacturer, but it isn't worth any more than I paid for it. Recently bought a Spencer in good condition for $1200, but I would not be able to sell it for much more, in any. However, the 1873 Springfield I bought for $60 in the mid 60s is now worth $600. Investment? not really, just a gun I wanted.
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