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No I held the gun in my hands it was a .58 smoothbore.
Cocking the gun took little too no effort and basically touching the trigger sent the ball on it way!
Another time I wished I had of taken more pictures or recorded the conversation with Mr. Tip…


Here’s a testimony a Friend of mine posted on the forum a few years ago..

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The velocity you speak of is the speed of sound in the locale that you are shooting in. As the ball loses speed and descends below the speed of sound (approximately 1080 fps @standard temperature and pressure) random air currents flowing over the ball raise cain with the trajectory (the "knuckle ball" effect). If you can hold 4" groups @ 50 yards you're doing good. Look up Bernoulli effect.
Four inches at 50 yds. would be excellent indeed.
 
I’ll try a lame duck with my smoothie tomorrow. I’m meeting a friend at the range tomorrow that has a ton of experience shooting them. I’m hoping he can beat some smooth bore sense into my thick skull. Had to have my woman show me how to print the targets off.
My best attempt at shooting a nice target. Had a super good shooter join me with his smoothie. He showed me where the cow ate the cabbage!
 

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Sightin one in ...25 yards. There is a gentleman on here that sends me pics of awesome groups he shoots off hand with a trade gun I built for him . I wanna respect his privacy so I won't say who but perhaps he will post a couple pics ...See if I kept some he sent me . He must not drink coffee !! LOL
 

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No I held the gun in my hands it was a .58 smoothbore.
Cocking the gun took little too no effort and basically touching the trigger sent the ball on it way!
Another time I wished I had of taken more pictures or recorded the conversation with Mr. Tip…


Here’s a testimony a Friend of mine posted on the forum a few years ago..

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Thank you.

A much better response than I wanted to write to someone disrespecting the departed.
 
NOBODY takes pictures of bad groups. ☹️
I do. It's part of the load development process for me. I don't get a lot of muzzleloading range time and often finding that sub 4" load tales a fee trips over several weeks. Pictures of the groups from all loads tell me what I've tried and how it worked. Except, if it is so bad I can't really call it a group.
 
I seldom see straight riffling at the big Holts uk auctions, in fact I can only think of one , it seems it was trialed to help with keeping the bore clean , no real information on it, .

You guys should look at making your smoothy into oval bore. Ie see Lancaster rifles , I don’t know why it’s not been mentioned before. Quite easy with a twisted square rod in a square hole , you need to make a lapping head to go with grinding paste , yes it’s weeks of work as an apprentice i found out 65 years ago

. I am thinking on bidding at holts, on a Bp unmentionable .577 double rifle , but I recon it will go for over £3000. With a small pension I just don’t know how ill
Pay my card off. Such is gunny life , not to mention what the wife will say, I keep saying investment “ when are you going to start selling them !!!!!!!
 

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I seldom see straight riffling at the big Holts uk auctions, in fact I can only think of one , it seems it was trialed to help with keeping the bore clean , no real information on it, .

You guys should look at making your smoothy into oval bore. Ie see Lancaster rifles , I don’t know why it’s not been mentioned before. Quite easy with a twisted square rod in a square hole , you need to make a lapping head to go with grinding paste , yes it’s weeks of work as an apprentice i found out 65 years ago

. I am thinking on bidding at holts, on a Bp unmentionable .577 double rifle , but I recon it will go for over £3000. With a small pension I just don’t know how ill
Pay my card off. Such is gunny life , not to mention what the wife will say, I keep saying investment “ when are you going to start selling them !!!!!!!
Sorry I forgot , you need .012” of oval. Not much really ha ha. But it’s worth it
 
Tip's target is marked "musket". Could it have been rifled? Not trying to take anything away from him but just wonder about it. That's a fantastic target shot with rifle or smoothbore.

I had opportunities to observe the behavior of balls in flight while scoring 200 yard rams in ml silhouette matches. All the ram shots were spotted with spotting scopes for hits since many participants shot calibers that weren't capable of knocking the rams over. It's amazing how you can watch the ball in flight when you are sitting near the shooter. Try it sometime. It's kinda eery the way it seems to be in slow motion.

Watching balls from rifles and smoothbores i never observed any perturbation as they flew downrange that would suggest they were upset upon dropping subsonic. The smoothbores were clearly changing direction between 50 and 100 yards. But it was a smooth ever increasing arc both vertically and horizontally and not consistently from shot to shot.
He told me it was fired with a smoothbore .40 and he built the rifle with a smooth barrel to prove the point that accurate shooting at moderate distances with no rifling could be done to some of his shooting buddies.
 
Found one !! Five shots , off hand , 25 yards , 6 o'clock hold .... One flyer to the left ...
Yupster, 25-yards!
alright now, you fellers shootin at 25yds that don't count at all! i can throw rocks at 25 yds that good! LOL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Ain't that the truth! I'm a murderer at 25-yards, but man oh' man, that sight picture @ 50-yards really tells the tale!

Now based purely on physics, a 1-1/2" group @ 25-yards = a 3" group @ 50-yards, due to the divergence of the pattern over the longer distance. Alsa, as I git older those longer range targets just look further aways, LOL!
 


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