12 guage shot pattern

[FishDFly]

Is wasp nest somthing easily available?

Find a farmer or rancher with some out buildings, he will have plenty for the taking.

 

[Tn poor boy]

True you want mess up but 1 time lol

 

[jlatz]

This is what has worked for me in an original open choked 12 ga. sxs. I load with 2 3/4 drams of ff 777, over powder wad (from Mike at Friendship), half a regular lubed cushion wad, 1 1/8th ounces of shot and the think over shot wad. This is a square load using an ounce and one eighth dipper. The patterns are good for me with this.

 

[45man]

Many fellows I know use a modern shot cup with BP.

 

[Cody2306]

My nephews is the one that says Devin on it. He has 12 g #8
I pretty much matched his pattern with 3 dams powder amd #5 shot. 3 over shot cards over powder and one over shot

Hopefully this helps anybody that was just as confused as me

 

[jackpine54]

My nephews is the one that says Devin on it. He has 12 g #8
I pretty much matched his pattern with 3 dams powder amd #5 shot. 3 over shot cards over powder and one over shot

This advice is great. Just 2-3 overshot cards between powder and shot and 1 above shot usually gets you a decent pattern.
I tend not to use a cushion was unless I am using the skychief load (look in smoothbore forum).
With really heavy loads I'll use an over powder card then shot then overshot card. That's mostly with 1.5- 2 ounce bismuth loads. Seems to pattern better in my gun.

 

[3Setters]

Here is a pattern from my Pedersoli 12 gauge, no choke; 7/8 ounce of 8 show over 70 grains of 2F shot at 20 yards. Thick over powder card/shot/thin over shot card.

 

[Cody2306]

Nice!!! Thanks for sharing

 

[Art Caputo]

A couple of my patterns. The Skychief load used for turkey. At 20 yards, 1Oz #6, 70gr FFG(left) ….And, the load without over shot felt wad, only a thin card wad….Used for upland bird hunting. 8x10” paper. No choke, 20ga Fowler.

 

[Cody2306]

That's a pretty darn good pattern

 

[jackpine54]

A couple of my patterns. The Skychief load used for turkey. At 20 yards, 1Oz #6, 70gr FFG(left) ….And, the load without over shot felt wad, only a thin card wad….Used for upland bird hunting. 8x10” paper. No choke, 20ga Fowler.
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Great examples Art! Your results are pretty much the same as mine with those components. I'm just not smart enough to take pictures.

 

[Art Caputo]

Thanks…LOTS of credit to Skychief……He did all the groundwork and his method surely helped me get my Fowler to be an effective Turkey gun!

 

[Ed Pilkington]

Hornet vs wasp nest?

 

[Ed Pilkington]

Wasp or Hornet?

 

[45man]

One thing I remember is a friend that when I shot his BP shotgun, I would be in one spot and my boots in another.

 

[Cody2306]

If this video works for the upload heres a vid of my nephew shooting the pedersoli

 

[Willy]

Many fellows I know use a modern shot cup with BP.

I used 'em for a long time in my cyl/imp cyl Navy Arms 12. They didn't give me any appreciable improvement on my patterns. They did make loading it simpler, but at the same time, I was getting some plastic buildup over time. I don't use them any more. I use home made cardboard wads these days.

 

[Cody2306]

Is there some kind of punch/die so I can cut my own over powder and over shot cards?

 

[TScottW99]

Is there some kind of punch/die so I can cut my own over powder and over shot cards?

I was looking for some the other day and found this

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255012115801

 

[Cody2306]

Thanks!!