1858 Remington New Model Army by Pietta

[D Yager]

$1500 is a lot of scratch, considering the Pietta is $370 and the Uberti is at $420. of those two, which would be the better buy?

From what I've seen on the Pietta the steel seems to be a harder alloy especially on the internal parts.

 

[BP Addict]

$1500 is a lot of scratch, considering the Pietta is $370 and the Uberti is at $420. of those two, which would be the better buy?

I'm not sure what Uberti's quality is like these days, but in the past, it was better than Pietta. I had one of the Pietta Remington Navys where the frame was not "finished" properly before bluing. It looked terrible.

Good Luck!

Walt

 

[Secesh]

Here’s an example of this on a Shooters Model Pietta… it’s not cheap if taken to this level…

That’s a nice one, BK. Do they sell these as production guns or is it a custom offering? We don’t have a decent gun emporium around where I am. Have to drive a hundred miles or so or buy on internet and most everything on Taylor’s website is on back order.

 

[RedPoin]

got 4 piettas in 1858 44cal much better quality than the 51 navy colt uberti my son shoots

 

[Zapadach]

It’s 6 of one half dozen of the other. Uberti usually has better fit and finish and more discrete stampings on the gun. They’re also closer dimensionally to original guns. Pietta are somewhat larger and have a billboard stamped on the sides of the barrel and frame. Or used to, I haven’t seen any new Pietta guns in some time. Of course the gun can always be defarbed if it bothers you. Here’s an example of this on a Shooters Model Pietta… it’s not cheap if taken to this level…
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I have a Pietta model with the large frame dixie gun works offers to fit my larger hands, I really like this revolver. And you know what ? When I am shooting it, especially, when I am sighting down the barrel, I do not see any markings.

 

[Bad Karma]

That’s a nice one, BK. Do they sell these as production guns or is it a custom offering? We don’t have a decent gun emporium around where I am. Have to drive a hundred miles or so or buy on internet and most everything on Taylor’s website is on back order.

This one began life as a stock Shooters Model. The defarbing, new stampings, including serial number, action work, refinishing, and grips were all custom.

 

[Bad Karma]

I have a Pietta model with the large frame dixie gun works offers to fit my larger hands, I really like this revolver. And you know what ? When I am shooting it, especially, when I am sighting down the barrel, I do not see any markings.

I can appreciate that point of view. If it works for you, it works for me. But I am also a sucker for fine wood and fine metal finishes.

 

[Blackpowderart]

This one began life as a stock Shooters Model. The defarbing, new stampings, including serial number, action work, refinishing, and grips were all custom.

Where can we send them to get one similar. I would pay for it. She's a beauty

 

[TNGhost]

Does anyone here have any experience with the ‘58 Remington that is manufactured by Pietta for Dixie Gun Works? Dixie advertises that it has progressive rifling for the tidy sum of $1,195

From Dixie’s website…

“This Remington, with its progressive rifling, won the gold medals in the World Muzzleloading Championships in Toronto in 1987 and in Pforzheim (W. Germany) in 1989. Grips are a 2 pc with European walnut. Blue steel frame. 44 caliber with blued 8" tapered octagon barrel with a 1 in 30" twist.”

I realize it has progressive or gain twist rifling but I’m interested to know what makes this particular revolver so expensive? Is it that much of a well made replica or is it actually that much of a well made reproduction?

I am thinking that the description is in error on the part about it being of Pietta manufacture. I've done a lot of business with Dixie over the years and of late, the last few years since the great silliness, I have noticed many of their descriptions leave a little to be desired. Some being unclear and some being downright wrong. I also miss their sales which I have not seen in a while and because of that have not bought from them lately as i can usually find the same thing I am looking at cheaper elsewhere on sale (Midway, Old South, BudK etc.).

I am pretty sure the pistol you are looking at is the Pedersoli one, that has a pretty good rep among those who place a high value on accuracy in target competitions, etc.

 

[Smokerr]

Problem with quality comments is if you only have one or two, its not statistically valid.

My Uberti 47 Walker works fine, timing is spot on, no issues with fit or finish. Its not S&W (or at least what S&W used to be) but plenty good and what I expect for the price, well for context, I had a Walker Bulldog 44 and its about the same class as that was. Yea it has the short arbor. Fixed pretty easily.

But that is an example of one. If you got one that the mechanism did not work and timing was bad, that would be what you see.

The people I would go with would be Mike or D Yager who see a whole lot of guns and can give some assessment on them.

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[Secesh]

I am thinking that the description is in error on the part about it being of Pietta manufacture. I've done a lot of business with Dixie over the years and of late, the last few years since the great silliness, I have noticed many of their descriptions leave a little to be desired. Some being unclear and some being downright wrong. I also miss their sales which I have not seen in a while and because of that have not bought from them lately as i can usually find the same thing I am looking at cheaper elsewhere on sale (Midway, Old South, BudK etc.).

I am pretty sure the pistol you are looking at is the Pedersoli one, that has a pretty good rep among those who place a high value on accuracy in target competitions, etc.

I’m gonna give them a call and ask about it. Been busy with other things but it would have to have a lot of bells and whistles if I shelled that much money out.

 

[Cullie]

Nice piece! I for one will pay a premium for quality fit and finish, select wood, good case color and deep bluing. I guess I buy with my eyes to some extent. I’m more of a rifle guy but I have 2 “cheap” army 44’s that I’ve shot the snot out of and they function well and clean up nice. I recently paid full retail for an unfired Pedersoli 58 double rifle that’s 25 years old but the quality on it is hard to get these days seems like.

 

[Rfp10000]

I found it. It’s listed as “Remington Pattern Target” not Remington 1858.

It’s the same thing . I have one.Ped Target vs chrome Ped Target Custom

https://www.davidepedersoli.com/en/product/remington-pattern-revolver-pedersoli-target

https://www.davidepedersoli.com/en/product/remington-pattern-revolver-pedersoli-target-custom

 

[Rfp10000]

I’m gonna give them a call and ask about it. Been busy with other things but it would have to have a lot of bells and whistles if I shelled that much money out.

https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1858-REMINGTON-TARGET-MODEL-44-8-p1195.htm

I don’t see the Shooters model which was the more expensive version as I recall.
https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/pietta-nm-remington-shooters-model.91233/

 

[Secesh]

I’m no competition shooter but I do like the dovetailed front sight that Uberti puts on their Rem. I believe Pietta uses just the post front sight. Just want one that is pretty close to the original Rem that is possible in an Italian replica.

 

[Bad Karma]

Where can we send them to get one similar. I would pay for it. She's a beauty

John Zimmerman did this one, he’s a master gunsmith in Harpers Ferry VA and he can hook you up if you provide the gun. I don’t know if he’s still working, gotta be pushing 90 by now…

 

[Rfp10000]

I’m no competition shooter but I do like the dovetailed front sight that Uberti puts on their Rem. I believe Pietta uses just the post front sight. Just want one that is pretty close to the original Rem that is possible in an Italian replica.

I have a Ped, Uberti & an Pietta ACE & they all have dovetail front sights .
I do like the adjustable Pietta rear sight but like you I’m no competitive shooter.

 

[Secesh]

I have a Ped, Uberti & an Pietta ACE & they all have dovetail front sights .
I do like the adjustable Pietta rear sight but like you I’m no competitive shooter.

Regarding Uberti vs Pietta overall quality, would you give one an edge over the other?

I’m just an ol school kinda guy, don’t need any adjustable sights, just a point and shoot sorta person.

 

[Rfp10000]

Regarding Uberti vs Pietta overall quality, would you give one an edge over the other?

I’m just an ol school kinda guy, don’t need any adjustable sights, just a point and shoot sorta person.

I like both of them , maybe favor the Uberti.
Here is a decent deal on a Pietta & they stand behind their sales .
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1858-REMINGTON-STEEL-ARMY-44-8-p1179.htm

 

[Secesh]

I think I’ve about decided to give the Uberti Rem a try. I have some Pietta’s and have had Uberti’s in the past and believe both are nice, decent replicas but I’m probably going to try the Uberti Rem.