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the target is the eye, though I don't know the desired angle.
If you shoot for the eye you are under the brain, I have shot hogs, horses and cattle in the head and the trick is to make an x between the eyes and ears. The center of the x is your bulls eye. Your angle is critical on a hog!
If you shoot for the eye you are under the brain, I have shot hogs, horses and cattle in the head and the trick is to make an x between the eyes and ears. The center of the x is your bulls eye. Your angle is critical on a hog!
Well that's what the poacher told me..., me may have been joshin' me..., or he may have been a poor poacher, or I misheard him :idunno: As I wasn't planning on taking up his advice, I didn't pay that much attention to details. :wink: The other advantage is if the poacher is caught before he downs a deer with his .22, he claims he's squirrel hunting.
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Judging from the behavior of some people....you bet I want gov't imposed laws and regulations....not only for hunting and fishing but also because of errant societal behavior. We left the "jungle" behind many centuries ago and I for one don't want it to return......'nough said.....Fred
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that has nothing to do with muzzleloaders and whitetail
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I know I'm about to take some heat for this response..but here goes...I don't believe any game dept. should tell me what caliber to use on game...if they want to recommend particular calibers, I would be fine with them doing so...we need to stop letting big brother tell us what's best! :v
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I wouldn't mind so much if they could be reasonable, but here in PA it's a bit much. For example, our ML regulations require that we use .45 and up for deer hunting, but we are required to use .40 and under for small game.
Now, I don't mind being told I have to own more than one gun, but when I'm building guns for 3 hunters in the family???? That's a bit much. I mean how much more damage is a .45 going to do to a squirrel than a .40???
I'd love to get into the other laws that our Commonwealth has saddled us with, but this is the wrong forum for that.
Ted Nugent summed it best when he said in his magazine column that Pennsylvania had the most arcane hunting regulations in the country. A quick look at 'em will prove that to just about anyone. :shake:
Enjoy, J.D.
Now, I don't mind being told I have to own more than one gun, but when I'm building guns for 3 hunters in the family???? That's a bit much. I mean how much more damage is a .45 going to do to a squirrel than a .40???
I'd love to get into the other laws that our Commonwealth has saddled us with, but this is the wrong forum for that.
Ted Nugent summed it best when he said in his magazine column that Pennsylvania had the most arcane hunting regulations in the country. A quick look at 'em will prove that to just about anyone. :shake:
Enjoy, J.D.
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I'm with Kodiak on this. We have heard from members who have LEGALLY and successfully taken deer with .22 RFs. Many more who have taken or seen hogs (larger than deer) LEGALLY taken with .22 RF. And these were perfectly successful hunts by responsible hunters who know what they're doing--and talking about. I personally like the way Texas does it. ANY caliber ML or CF is legal for deer, and any caliber is legal for hogs.
Just to play devils advocate here... For those of you that say the gov should be telling us what to do... Some have said that .50 should be minimum. Ok, lets go with that. But it has to use a powder charge of at least 150grs of powder because anything else is just too weak in the energy department. And we have all heard that a RB is inefficient compared to, say, the .338 Lapua, and we all need to at least match that since we don't want the game to suffer after it is hit. And it needs to deliver a set number of ft/lbs of energy on target at 300yds. Speaking of 300 yds, you need to qualify yearly at the said 300 yds to make sure your accuracy is up to par. And since scopes allow better accuracy, as everyone who hasn't been living under a rock knows, all hunting rifles have to be scope sighted. And for those of you who decide that this takes the fun out of ML hunting, well, remember those energy requirements? Hope you weren't planning on using handloads in your CFs. I mean, what kind of an administrative moron would it take to allow handloads when those would allow you to load them light, and then the State wouldn't have any way of keeping a list of what exact load is being used by who, and making sure they provide the proper required energy for responsible hunters, and since you want to be responsible (don't you?) you will use factory ammo only, won't you? And only in the latest greatest offerings, since those are the best available. Ammo shortage? What ammo shortage? Being a responsible hunter, you will understand that you just have to sit this season out if you can't find ammo for the latest state-required caliber out. We're really sorry for the inconvenience, but you're responsible, so we know you'll understand. Maybe, just maybe, you can find a box by next season, and if not, well, as a responsible hunter...
Get my drift yet? I think they need to stay out of your business and mine as long as we're being safe. I can understand the requirement for seasons and bag limits for the sake of making sure we still have game to hunt next year and the year after, but caliber and other details should be up to you and me.
Just to play devils advocate here... For those of you that say the gov should be telling us what to do... Some have said that .50 should be minimum. Ok, lets go with that. But it has to use a powder charge of at least 150grs of powder because anything else is just too weak in the energy department. And we have all heard that a RB is inefficient compared to, say, the .338 Lapua, and we all need to at least match that since we don't want the game to suffer after it is hit. And it needs to deliver a set number of ft/lbs of energy on target at 300yds. Speaking of 300 yds, you need to qualify yearly at the said 300 yds to make sure your accuracy is up to par. And since scopes allow better accuracy, as everyone who hasn't been living under a rock knows, all hunting rifles have to be scope sighted. And for those of you who decide that this takes the fun out of ML hunting, well, remember those energy requirements? Hope you weren't planning on using handloads in your CFs. I mean, what kind of an administrative moron would it take to allow handloads when those would allow you to load them light, and then the State wouldn't have any way of keeping a list of what exact load is being used by who, and making sure they provide the proper required energy for responsible hunters, and since you want to be responsible (don't you?) you will use factory ammo only, won't you? And only in the latest greatest offerings, since those are the best available. Ammo shortage? What ammo shortage? Being a responsible hunter, you will understand that you just have to sit this season out if you can't find ammo for the latest state-required caliber out. We're really sorry for the inconvenience, but you're responsible, so we know you'll understand. Maybe, just maybe, you can find a box by next season, and if not, well, as a responsible hunter...
Get my drift yet? I think they need to stay out of your business and mine as long as we're being safe. I can understand the requirement for seasons and bag limits for the sake of making sure we still have game to hunt next year and the year after, but caliber and other details should be up to you and me.
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I am rather jealous of your location in PA. The best place for muzzleloading nuts like me. But I am here on the bayou. Hunting regulations here though are more straightforward. 44 cal or larger rifle, pistol, or shotgun in terms of muzzleloading. But I am very much against them now allowing cartrige single shot weapons in primitive season. They are even letting cartridges not originally blackpowder to be used.
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I think there should be penalties for wounding animals, but thats incredibly hard to prosecute. But I believe there should not be a required caliber. It is the hunter's moral responsibility whether lawfully or not, to bring enough gun to the fight.
Seems like we are seriously drifting off target here....
I agree. Let's discontinue the talk about modern firearms and state laws.Cynthialee said:
Here is the original question: "Do you think it is possible to cleanly take a whitetail deer with the little 32 caliber pea? Not saying its a good idea but could it be done in a real emergency situation?"
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My thoughts too. Why bring it up?
Can you kill a whitetail with a paper airplane? How about a fly swatter?
OK, read enough of this one, only on the second page.....
Why pose the question? I think that you already know that it CAN be done. Question for me is, do YOU want to try it? Question seems baiting, to me. If you really want to know, try it yourself. Entire string is a waste of time. baxter
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"All he had with him was a .22 short rifle which I used to shoot him in the head from 3 feet. It bounced right off his skull".
Your brother must have been one tough dude. Too bad you had to finish him off. What happened to the deer?
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"All he had with him was a .22 short rifle which I used to shoot him in the head from 3 feet. It bounced right off his skull".
Your brother must have been one tough dude. Too bad you had to finish him off. What happened to the deer?
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No intention of doing it. I was somewhat curious if there are any reports of it being done and just opinion to see how comfortable one would be taking the shot if it absolutely had to happen.
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Ok. I have one for y'all. Who here has both a .32 AND a hog problem? Just asking since hogs are usually considered varmints. Maybe I should have asked who has a .32, a hog problem, and a tall tree to climb just in case they turn out to not be as good a shot as they think they are. :stir:
If "it absolutely had to happen" there apparently would be no other option, I guess. A long, long time ago I went mule deer hunting with a .222Rem. Luckily, no deer came into my sight picture and the next season I had a .270. Baxter
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