.50cal round ball drop

[Katahdin]

answer to the drop at 150yds,,excessive,and very little energy left...

 

[FrontierMuzzleloading]

energy matters with tiny calibers and bullets that need to expand. If you shot balls long enough, you should know that nothing can survive with a 1/2 to 9/16" hole through its lungs. :shocked2:

 

[coloradoclyde]

you should know that nothing can survive with a 1/2 to 9/16" hole through its lungs. :shocked2:

Wrong again!

 

[Katahdin]

"nothing can survive with a 1/2 to 9/16" hole through its lungs".
True prime word ""through" got have the energy to go "through" 50 just doesn't do it for me. at that range it is a lob shot,like a football travels.

 

[FrontierMuzzleloading]

they shoot bows and arrows now days at 100 yards on big game :haha:

If you dont feel comfortable shooting what ever range, don't do it. But don't try telling others its not possible, because that elk in the freezer might give you an argument

 

[George]

answer to the drop at 150yds,,excessive,and very little energy left...

Yes, that's the company line, and most people base their shooting practices on it. Same people who sight their guns in for 50 yards because "you never get shots further than that east of the Mississippi." Some people who really dig in and find out the actual conditions, though, understand that's not correct. A .490 ball fired at 1700 fps MV will drop only 10+ inches below POA at 150 yards when sighted at 100 yards, and will still be traveling almost 1000 fps when it gets there. That will do the job if put in the right spot. In the right conditions a good shooter can put it in the right spot, especially if he understands what his rifle is doing, and has taught himself to shoot beyond 50 yards.

Spence

 

[FrontierMuzzleloading]

:hatsoff: Spence

 

[Katahdin]

I went back and reread my responces NO where did I say it wasn't possible I wrote it was beyond my limits..you posting asked about drop at 150 yds for a 50 cal when sighted at 100 yds.My responce then and now ,,excessive,,,.Past 100 yds the energy drop off very fast..I keep my shots under 75yds and 50yds when I hunt with my 45
I read once a question is asked for one of two reasons,,Confirmation or Confrentation.

 

[Katahdin]

you posting says you shot the elk with a 54 cal..you questions as it was written asked the drop of a 50 cal.

 

[George]

I read once a question is asked for one of two reasons,,Confirmation or Confrentation.

Never for information? In today's world, I can believe it.

This thread is a perfect example of a very unpleasant situation which seems to have become a permanent part of TMF. The man asked a simple question...how much drop?... and the line immediately formed to tell him he should never shoot at 150 yards, real hunters sneak up close, OK for paper but never for live game, I can't do it so you shouldn't, stop complicating the game we play, and etc., etc.

The only required answer is....10 inches. What he does with the information is his business.

Spence

 

[coloradoclyde]

No!
Vomir le Chien was correct.

Modern psychology would argue that a man who brags about performing such a feat would not ask such a simple question unless he was trying to stroke his own ego.

Why would he ask how to do it and then proceed to brag about doing it before?... :hmm:

 

[George]

No!
Vomir le Chien was correct.

Modern psychology would argue that a man who brags about performing such a feat would not ask such a simple question unless he was trying to stroke his own ego.

Why would he ask how to do it and then proceed to brag about doing it before?... :hmm:

:bull:

Spence

 

[FrontierMuzzleloading]

It was in response to your running out of energy :bull:

But yes, I just was trying to remember if it was 10 or 12 inches of drop at 150.

Doing a little comparison of the ball vs a new lil pill of a conical I am using this year.

 

[coloradoclyde]

Doing a little comparison of the ball vs a new lil pill of a conical I am using this year.

How does it compare?

 

[bubba.50]

"new lil pill of a conical" sounds like one of those plastic wrapped condom bullets to me. if such is the case, bein' lighter & more streamlined it likely shoots a dab flatter. won't kill no deader though.

 

[FrontierMuzzleloading]

The rifle has a 1:48 twist soooo.

Not sure whats Colorado Clyde is saying bcuz I've got that clown blocked. Not sure why he is able to see my posts when you have them blocked :youcrazy:

 

[necchi]

It's the same way you can see my posts,, and now I don't need to be bothered seeing yours.
"click"

 

[Katahdin]

Ok!!! everyone shake hands, back away from the line,,Martha pass out the Snickers,,
Do what works for you and enjoy the weather,,Was going shooting today but with this rain even my H/A Underhammer if in question..
Got some Buffalo BALLETS,weird little half one half of the other design,working up a load or just shooting them down range,not sure.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass,but learning to dance in the rain....

 

[Billnpatti]

The rifle has a 1:48 twist soooo.

Not sure whats Colorado Clyde is saying bcuz I've got that clown blocked.

Son, let me assure you of something and that is that Colorado Clyde is no clown. You may not agree with him but he does know whereof he speaks. Your argumentive aggressiveness and name calling has no place on this forum. You asked a question and got your answers from some pretty experienced shooters of muzzleloading rifles. If you don't like the answers, fine, but don't start name calling because it has no place on this forum. If that's your style, perhaps you would feel more at home on another forum.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

I'd say I wouldn't expect anyting :wink: ....because I don't know the velocity from the ball and patch that I'm using. I could look up what TC says they got from their test rifle, and I own the same model, so might, just might be close enough from their published results to get a close guess.

OR..., if I thought I was going to need that distance, I would go out and try my rifle with my load at 150 yards, and then I'd know.

I'd also know what my sight pictures gives me for a target at that distance. I'd know if my front sight post is fine at 100 yards BUT maybe it appears really wide when the target is out at 150 yards. Maybe it obscures the target too much? Maybe I need a thinner front sight post to be more precise? I'd know not only the drop; I'd also know if I got a consistant grouping. So I'd know that although the rifle will throw the ball that far, and velocity and mass will humanely harvest the animal at that range, I'd confirm if I have the skill to be able to properly place the shot at that range, shot after shot. OR, I'd know I need to get closer.

LD