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.58cal Early Virgina arrived today from Matt Avance at TVM

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Wonderful looking rifle love the wood ( figure and Color) only 2 ozs more than you T/C. You will love the sight palce and abilty to het targets out futher than you ar e used to once you get the right load. Thanks for sharing.

John
 
tg said:
Beautifull gun, I assume it was worth the wait?
So far...but I haven't shot it yet...still have all the sight adjustments to deal with...be a couple weeks before I have access to a range again
 
roundball said:
tg said:
Beautifull gun, I assume it was worth the wait?
So far...but I haven't shot it yet...still have all the sight adjustments to deal with...be a couple weeks before I have access to a range again
Don't be suprised if all you have to do is file the front sight. I never had a custom rifle that required rear sight adjustment.
 
I tend to agree with that...however, this little fixed rear sight has virtually no notch in it at all...just a line where the center of the blade is as if its a guide mark to center cut a slot as needed...it can't be used as is. And initially I'm not going to touch the sights...just shoot some range sessions at very close ranges to get used to the rifle and settle into a comfortable mounting position...deal with sight alterations after that, with the old saying "measure twice / cut once" in mind
 
I bought a very thin file 25 years ago (or so) for filing the rear notch of those sights...I think it was an old automotive points file...You might want to start looking for one for your adjustmants...
 
I had to open up the rear notch on mine just a bit. My eye is not good enough to use the tiny original notch. If I may offer some advice, for what it is worth: First, if you do not have Dutch Schoulz's pamphlet, it is $15 well spent. See http://www.blackpowderrifleaccuracy.com/

Second, I would not touch the front sight until you find the most accurate load. It does not matter much where the group is -- once you find the combination that produces the best group, you can work on getting it where you want it. Very likely, it will require some filing of the front sight.

Have fun. :thumbsup:
 
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roundball said:
"...however, this little fixed rear sight has virtually no notch in it at all..."

Good to get that feedback on the rear sight notch as that's what I assumed I'd do...barely start a tiny but more distinctive notch with a hacksaw blade or a small triangle file on the very top...
 
You can customize that rear sight with a square or V notch as you see fit, I have found that the smaller it is the quicker it comes to sight with the front one....back when I shot rifles and could use rear sights.
 
Very nice rifle Roundball, I'm sure it will suit you well. :thumbsup: Can't wait to see a couple of targets and hear what you think of her then.
 
I'm surprised.

Here roundball has been waiting for months for this new rifle and all he has done is to weigh it to compare the weight to his old TC's.

I currently own two TC Hawkens and I have had others in the past.

I also own several rifles with Davis set triggers and Siler locks on them so the thing that surprises me is he hasn't said a word about how much better the Davis triggers and the Siler lock is when comparing it with a TC.

Don't get me wrong. TC's have pretty good triggers and their locks are OK too but, IMO there is almost no real comparison between them and the hardware thats on roundballs new gun.

Of course, that's just my opinion so I have to ask.

What do you think of these so far roundball?
 
I've been waiting for this pics, and I think it looks great Roundball! When I sighted my Virginia from TVM, all I had to do was adjust the verticle. I didn't have to touch the windage as it was right on. I don't know if I was just lucky or if Matt does some rough rough site adjustment before he sends them out. Let me know how it goes!
 
That's good to hear about the windage...I suspect that's more the result of a true barrel than anything done by a builder.

The lock seems fine just dry firing it in the garage.

The much vaunted Davis triggers are a disappointment...front single trigger pull is unusable at 9 pounds.

My T/C factory triggers are better than that...I'll have to see if leverage in Davis triggers is adjustable or if the pull weight has to be addressed in the lock. If it has to be dealt with in the lock I'm not going to screw with it, I'll just have to use it in set trigger mode, which works fine like set triggers do.
 
roundball said:
The much vaunted Davis triggers are a disappointment...front single trigger pull is unusable at 9 pounds.

My T/C factory triggers are better than that...I'll have to see if leverage in Davis triggers is adjustable or if the pull weight has to be addressed in the lock. If it has to be dealt with in the lock I'm not going to screw with it, I'll just have to use it in set trigger mode, which works fine like set triggers do.
I would contact Matt, something does not sound right. I have the same trigger in one of my rifles and it is an awesome trigger set and unset.

With regard to the rear sight notch, just get yourself a thin file and open it up a bit, won't affect POI just helps you see the front sight.
 
roundball said:
FYI...the .58cal Virginia seemed noticably lighter than my 9 lb./2 oz - .58cal half stock Hawken with its 1"x 33" barrel...so I weighed them both just now and the Virginia actually weighs an eyelash more at 9 lb./ 4oz.....must be the 6" longer length spreading it out some

It is because it is balanced differelty with a swamped barrel = feels lighter when you shoulder it. More weight is distributed back towards the shooter rather than out on the forestock.

:thumbsup:
 
roundball said:
roundball said:
"...however, this little fixed rear sight has virtually no notch in it at all..."

Good to get that feedback on the rear sight notch as that's what I assumed I'd do...barely start a tiny but more distinctive notch with a hacksaw blade or a small triangle file on the very top...


I've had the best luck with very good needle files. One of mine has no cutting teeth on the thin sides, and is really square. It's great for widening notches with no danger of deepening them or rounding the bottom corners. The triangular files are a joy to use too. They cut right down to the skinny little tips, making it possible to do some really fine work on sights.
 
Didn't think you'd get him to fess up, Zonie. :shake:

Roundball can't say anything that could even remotely be interpretted that any rifle or component is superior to T/C components - just ain't in his contract! Best he can do is say it's "OK". :rotf:

First time I laid my hands on a Siler, I knew I was in the presence of a top shelf piece of machinery - it's like popping the hood on a BMW and listening to the engine for the first time. :applause:

Never met anyone with any mechanical knowledge who's picked up a Siler lock and didn't think it was head and shoulders above ANY coil spring production lock. That includes T/C, Lyman, Pedersoli and any other you want to name.

This may be a first - someone who thiks T/Cs locks are better than Silers. :rotf:
 
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