Adding material to existing stock

[epichistorymaker]

Just sourced a Traditions Kentucky Kit.

I’d really like to add a little more material to the stock in order to give it a well defined cheek piece.

I’m fine with using modern epoxies and or materials to make it as seemless as possible.

Any input?

 

[tallPercshooter]

Titebond Ultimate. Strongest wood glue out there. You can glue two scraps together, wait overnight, and you can't break the bond with a chisel.

 

[deerstalkert]

reduce the material around said cheek piece and you will get the standout cheek and a much more svelte rifle.
most kits sold have about a half cord wood extra anyway.

 

[epichistorymaker]

reduce the material around said cheek piece and you will get the standout cheek and a much more svelte rifle.
most kits sold have about a half cord wood extra anyway.

That’s a good point.

What is a cord

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

That’s a good point.

What is a cord

128 cubic feet. If firewood, stacked 4'X4'X8' long.
Honestly, I wouldn't wast my time.

 

[deerstalkert]

That’s a good point.

What is a cord

Mike beat me to it. a slight exaggeration on my part, but it seems like that amount when rasping. filing, scraping a stock . Mike as you can tell is not a fan of traditions kits. could be something to do with having built over 400 rifles in a long and fruitful life.

 

[epichistorymaker]

Mike beat me to it. a slight exaggeration on my part, but it seems like that amount when rasping. filing, scraping a stock . Mike as you can tell is not a fan of traditions kits. could be something to do with having built over 400 rifles in a long and fruitful life.

That’s a lot of them!

 

[The Crisco Kid]

He probably whittled away many cords of wood in the process, one little piece at a time!

 

[epichistorymaker]

128 cubic feet. If firewood, stacked 4'X4'X8' long.
Honestly, I wouldn't wast my time.

Ahh got what you meant.

 

[wiscoaster]

reduce the material around said cheek piece and you will get the standout cheek and a much more svelte rifle.
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That would be my first option, too.

 

[wiscoaster]

Titebond Ultimate. Strongest wood glue out there. You can glue two scraps together, wait overnight, and you can't break the bond with a chisel.

Yes, but there's no way to hide it short of an opaque finish - ie paint, ewwww

 

[1971fx]

That’s a good point.

What is a cord

Here's a bunch of cords
I burn one these loads every winter

 

[The Black Tyrone]

128 cubic feet. If firewood, stacked 4'X4'X8' long.
Honestly, I wouldn't wast my time.

Don't forget squirrel tight!

 

[deerstalkert]

funny! i just broke into a nest half way through my stack.
also found a chipmunk stash of rat poison. about 10 pounds of it.

 

[Col. Batguano]

also found a chipmunk stash of rat poison. about 10 pounds of it.

A bit off topic but I've seen that too. We put out mouse poison in our boat house (it's not mouse proof) and they took it and stored it all in 1 drawer. I've found mouse droppings inside carburetors before too.

The lower edges of the brass butterfly valves turned green and corroded to stick to the aluminum barrel. I wound up boiling the whole assembly on the kitchen stove top for about 3 hours to loosen everything up. Worked like a charm. That works for guns too that are all gaacked up from a century or more of WD-40 being sprayed throughout them.

I hate those meeces to pieces!

 

[IanH]

"Stacked so a mouse can run through but a cat can't follow" is how I always heard a full cord of firewood is supposed to be.

On the Traditions kit, if you actually need the cheek built up so it it fits you, slab on a piece of any old hardwood and dye it black.

 

[Joemolf]

Here's a bunch of cords
I burn one these loads every winter

Incredible and God Bless all that are able to handle all that lumber! That looks like 6 cords probably more? I bought a place in NH in 2018 my first viewing of loads like that being delivered to peoples property. There’s a name for a load like that? Me I burn too but since I’m not there enough I use only 2 cords a season though I could easily use 4 if I was permanently. When I’m there the wood stove is constantly going only turn up the thermostat on really cold days for a better balance of heat in the rooms. I assume you heat your hot water. I was amazed to see some of the wood heat systems and the way some stack. Anyway I just had to comment my hat is off to you!

 

[54ball]

Just sourced a Traditions Kentucky Kit.

I’d really like to add a little more material to the stock in order to give it a well defined cheek piece.

I’m fine with using modern epoxies and or materials to make it as seemless as possible.

Any input?

This has been done and it can look surprisingly good.

reduce the material around said cheek piece and you will get the standout cheek and a much more svelte rifle.
most kits sold have about a half cord wood extra anyway.

Do not do this on a CVA/Traditions Kentucky!!!!!!
There’s simply not enough wood there. The buttstock is way too thin even out of the box and the forestock is way too thick with a giant web. This makes the rifle slab sided even if you “thin” the forestock.
It is what it is.

I have seen some impressive CVAs/Jukars/Traditions with glued on cheek pieces and moulding carved in. One even had a Siler lock fitted with Lancaster trigger guard.

It looked really good but at the end of the day, it was still a Jukar......

It is what it is....

To answer the question, the cheek piece is fully shaped and glued on.

Personally I would finish the rifle up nice....
Maybe thin it here and there where I could and enjoy it.

It is what it is.

I would save all that effort for a blank build or a parts set.....

It can and has been done.

Your results may vary.

 

[epichistorymaker]

This has been done and it can look surprisingly good.

Do not do this on a CVA/Traditions Kentucky!!!!!!
There’s simply not enough wood there. The buttstock is way too thin even out of the box and the forestock is way too thick with a giant web. This makes the rifle slab sided even if you “thin” the forestock.
It is what it is.

I have seen some impressive CVAs/Jukars/Traditions with glued on cheek pieces and moulding carved in. One even had a Siler lock fitted with Lancaster trigger guard.

It looked really good but at the end of the day, it was still a Jukar......

It is what it is....

To answer the question, the cheek piece is fully shaped and glued on.

Personally I would finish the rifle up nice....
Maybe thin it here and there where I could and enjoy it.

It is what it is.

I would save all that effort for a blank build or a parts set.....

It can and has been done.

Your results may vary.

I appreciate it.

It definitely looks like I can make it look something like a Leman without too much work.

Any idea if there is a clean out screw on the drum?

 

[54ball]

I appreciate it.

It definitely looks like I can make it look something like a Leman without too much work.

Any idea if there is a clean out screw on the drum?

They are very good, simple rifles in percussion.
The CVA does have a clean out screw. Really the drum is plugged by that screw.
It’s really not necessary to remove it for cleaning.

Leman.......

One fun thing to do is Leman stripes.
Before finish, you can paint stripes on the stock with black, umber or a mix of black and umber India ink with a hair artist brush.
It can look really good.

Leman used special wide brush with gaps. Several stripes were laid down with one stroke.
I did it years ago on a stock using a simple thin artist brush.
It was pretty cool.