Allen Hawken rifle.

[Cattywompuss]

The wood on the Bridger gun is what i'm used to seeing. Very plain.

John Johnstons (aka Liver Eatin Jeremiah) rifle had a lot of figure. I believe it is in the Cody Museum.. Since the movie that doesn't even feature a genuine Hawken is why we all spend so much time talking about these particular guns, I reckon we can take a page from his actual gun and enjoy them with stripes, or not.

 

[user 36911]

John Johnstons (aka Liver Eatin Jeremiah) rifle had a lot of figure. I believe it is in the Cody Museum.. Since the movie that doesn't even feature a genuine Hawken is why we all spend so much time talking about these particular guns, I reckon we can take a page from his actual gun and enjoy them with stripes, or not.

Yes, i've accepted plain or fancy. I'm a fan of Bridger, so i'll go with plain. It seems to suit the rugged conditions the mountain men had to face.

 

[andy52]

John Johnstons (aka Liver Eatin Jeremiah) rifle had a lot of figure. I believe it is in the Cody Museum.. Since the movie that doesn't even feature a genuine Hawken is why we all spend so much time talking about these particular guns, I reckon we can take a page from his actual gun and enjoy them with stripes, or not.

Yep, That movie and the Mini Series Centennial got me down this slippery slope of muzzlelaoding. ..

 

[andy52]

Yes, i've accepted plain or fancy. I'm a fan of Bridger, so i'll go with plain. It seems to suit the rugged conditions the mountain men had to face.

I'm not sure I understand your concept here, a figured stock would be no less durable in a setting of the one you suggest? A figured maple stock isn't weaker than a plain one.

 

[Cattywompuss]

I'm not sure I understand your concept here, a figured stock would be no less durable in a setting of the one you suggest? A figured maple stock isn't weaker than a plain one.

I think he is just saying "A plain horse, for a plain John Adams!" As in "no fancy rifles round here!"

 

[user 36911]

Exactly. Fancy belongs on skinny longrifles.

 

[andy52]

You guys are funny, I guess nice rifles ended at the Mississippi river.....

 

[user 36911]

No, I just don't like fancy. Plain and rugged is more my style.

 

[OldMaineWoodsman]

Rick Hacker had a very positive review of the Allen Arms Hawken in his book "The Muzzle-Loading Hunter."

 

[andy52]

I should get it tomorrow I'll give some more info when I have it in hand.

 

[Notchy Bob]

I should get it tomorrow I'll give some more info when I have it in hand.

Looking forward to hearing more about this rifle! I sure would like to find one.

Notchy Bob

 

[andy52]

Looking forward to hearing more about this rifle! I sure would like to find one.

Notchy Bob

I should get some .520 balls that I ordered from TOW about the same time as the rifle, I should be able to get to the range by the end of this week or the first of the next.

 

[andy52]

Surprise, surprise the postal service screwed up again. The rifle was supposed to get here today and it was delivered to the post office, just not my post office.
It got delivered to a town about 60 miles from me, so now I'll have to wait for it to return to the distribution center and redirected.

 

[user 36911]

I used to get that all the time. I would never have the PO ship a gun to me or from me anymore. They suck!

 

[andy52]

I got the rifle today and all I can say is "Wow" it looks like new. This rifle either didn't get used or it was well taken care of, there's not a ding or scratch on the metal or wood.

 

[OldMaineWoodsman]

I had a feeling you would like it. The one I saw years ago in Florida was a nice looking rifle.

 

[andy52]

ng it a try next week to see how it shoots.

I had a feeling you would like it. The one I saw years ago in Florida was a nice looking rifle.

It's a little heaver then my Hatfield or GPR but I'll get used to it and let you guys know how it shoots soon.

 

[thompson50]

This is mine. Built by Brant Selb of Oregon.

The Allen Hawken was a nice rifle. I saw one for sale many years ago in a gun shop in Florida. Very well made and solid.

He is building me a flint Hawken rifle. It’s killing me to wait for it.

 

[Shiloh1944]

I have had an Allen for a number of years. It is an excellent shooter. I shoot I believe .530 round balls and a .010 lubed patch over 70gr. of Goex ffg. I have in the past shot clover leafed groups at 50 yards and 1 1/2" groups at 100 yds. I probably can't do it today because of aging eyesight and shaking. Here are a few photos of my rifle.

 

[andy52]

I have had an Allen for a number of years. It is an excellent shooter. I shoot I believe .530 round balls and a .010 lubed patch over 70gr. of Goex ffg. I have in the past shot clover leafed groups at 50 yards and 1 1/2" groups at 100 yds. I probably can't do it today because of aging eyesight and shaking. Here are a few photos of my rifle.

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Pretty much looks like the same rifle. The crown on mine is different though. I not sure if it came from the factory that way or if someone worked on it after the fact.