Asking for any info on this rifle.

[The Black Tyrone]

Howdy,
I got this rifle from the local gun shop for free and I was thinking it might be salvageable, the barrel is terrible and I have no lock, I put a T/C Hawkin lock against it but it was too big, any info, ideas, speculation or WAGs would definitely be appreciated

 

[poker]

Get yourself an older copy of track of the wolf’s catalog. You can figure out which lock might work, as they show them in actual size.
Your barrel needs a good cleaning to know for sure, but looks like it might require a reboring, call Bobby Hoyt for a quote.

 

[The Black Tyrone]

Get yourself an older copy of track of the wolf’s catalog. You can figure out which lock might work, as they show them in actual size.
Your barrel needs a good cleaning to know for sure, but looks like it might require a reboring, call Bobby Hoyt for a quote.

Thanks for the reply, that is the barrel after cleaning, very heavy rust. I try Mr. Hoyt for the reboring and check with TOTW.

 

[oldwood]

Looks like a post 1820 small cal. rifle made between Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. These were famously made for the time when the Indian wars were over , and most big game was gone from the Ohio ,W. Va. Ky , western Pa. region of the East. Have seen and restored some of these , providing the stockwood isn't powdery.

 

[The Black Tyrone]

Looks like a post 1820 small cal. rifle made between Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. These were famously made for the time when the Indian wars were over , and most big game was gone from the Ohio ,W. Va. Ky , western Pa. region of the East. Have seen and restored some of these , providing the stockwood isn't powdery.

Thanks, that makes me glad I didn't pass this one up. The stock feels solid with a few cracks and blemishes but I would love to shoot it again.

 

[poker]

Track no longer prints caalogs. They have an online version nowadays. Its much easier to match things up though with a printed copy. Perhaps theres someone close to your area that would lend you one or better yet help you choose one.

 

[The Black Tyrone]

Track no longer prints caalogs. They have an online version nowadays. Its much easier to match things up though with a printed copy. Perhaps theres someone close to your area that would lend you one or better yet help you choose one.

Thanks I am going to try and hunt one down.

 

[The Black Tyrone]

Thanks I am going to try and hunt one down.

Tracked one down

 

[oldwood]

The Log Cabin Shop in North Eastern Ohio is a good resource , and they did have a full time m/l gunsmith , that might talk to ya.

 

[The Black Tyrone]

The Log Cabin Shop in North Eastern Ohio is a good resource , and they did have a full time m/l gunsmith , that might talk to ya.

Thanks, I'll give them a try, I am talking with them about a Russ Hamm lock I have.

 

[54ball]

That’s a mid-19th Century Longrifle. It could be post Civil War. So....1850-1870ish.....

The styling is rather ambiguous, at least to me but I’m not up on late percussion guns.
It’s Eastern.
I would put it East of the Mississippi and North of the Ohio.
It could be Mid-Western or North Eastern....New York.
It has some pluses like some incised lines on the toe plate and very simple forestock mouliding lines. That’s nice to see.

Maybe someone can narrow it down better.

Likely it had a “Goulcher” style percussion lock. These were quite common. Many folks call them “ hardware store” locks.

For a new lock.....
L&R makes a Goulcher marked lock.
Jim Chambers makes a late percussion lock as well.

Personally, I would try to find an original 19th Century lock that fits the mortise.

I would get the measurements, I would make a rubbing of the empty lock mortise and begin my search. With the measurements and basic shape you may be able to compare images off of auction websites. Late percussion locks were made by the gazillions so you should be able to find a suitable lock.

Shooting.....
Personally, I would clean it find a lock and hang it on the wall.

 

[The Black Tyrone]

That’s a mid-19th Century Longrifle. It could be post Civil War. So....1850-1870ish.....

The styling is rather ambiguous, at least to me but I’m not up on late percussion guns.
It’s Eastern.
I would put it East of the Mississippi and North of the Ohio.
It could be Mid-Western or North Eastern....New York.
It has some pluses like some incised lines on the toe plate and very simple forestock mouliding lines. That’s nice to see.

Maybe someone can narrow it down better.

Likely it had a “Goulcher” style percussion lock. These were quite common. Many folks call them “ hardware store” locks.

For a new lock.....
L&R makes a Goulcher marked lock.
Jim Chambers makes a late percussion lock as well.

Personally, I would try to find an original 19th Century lock that fits the mortise.

I would get the measurements, I would make a rubbing of the empty lock mortise and begin my search. With the measurements and basic shape you may be able to compare images off of auction websites. Late percussion locks were made by the gazillions so you should be able to find a suitable lock.

Shooting.....
Personally, I would clean it find a lock and hang it on the wall.

Thanks for the help, I'll have to try finding an original lock, as far as hanging it on the wall that is also part of the plan but this rifle looks like a working man's rifle and as such a tool to be used. I don't mean to repeatedly hunt or target shoot with but a well preserved and useful tool that can be admired for for its simple good looks, utility, and the many hands that may have found it useful.

 

[Gtrubicon]

You could easily double your money around here. With that rifle!