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I suspect the further west one went, say like a couple hundred miles, the scarcer whale oil would get……….
Not sure about that. Lots of stuff had to get shipped -- like flour, sugar, and black powder. Maybe whale oil too; but I don't really know. Maybe it was regarded as a luxury rather than a staple.
 
Dr. Klever invented Ballistol as a multi-use CLP for the German Army , I believe prior to WWI.

I don't find it good as a rust preventative, you can't beat Eezox for that.

It's ok on powder fouling, I don't really use it much.
 
One thing no one has mentioned (or at least I didn’t see it) is that Ballistol is intentionally made slightly alkaline which counters (to what degree I don’t know) the acidic effects of the of the old military primers and, by extension, black powder.

Having seen the effects on a dirty muzzle loader - and how quick it can happen in the right conditions - I like using Ballistol and use it liberally on my black powder weapons and when I fire old corrosive primer military ammo for bore/bolt cleaning.
I have other cleaning/oil products for different situations but Ballistol is my primary go-to for my muzzleloaders except for long term storage where I break out a “real oil” - I’ll go with the collective wisdom there.
 
I got back from the range today having used Schutzen powder for the first time , boy is it dirty burning , I cleaned the barrel with Ballistol moose milk , that worked fine as I expected , then I sprayed the lock with Lehigh Valley Lube Cleaner , which no one else seems to mention on this forum , and watched the built up crud in and around the pan under the flint etc just melt away , a quick scrub with a tooth brush and a wipe down and it was clean .
As an experiment I washed all my pieces of cleaning and oiling army type cloth ,What we call 4X2 , all came clean except the ones I had used with jojoba bean oil ( vegetative version of whale oil ), they still had an oily feel to them when I pegged them on the clothes line . This requires more investigation .
 
Tried it, and discovered that every bore I used it in as a protectant, caused rust.
This was in an air conditioned climate. Now my friend uses it for cleaning, and making moose milk. I gave my supply to him.

I clean with Windex, and WD40 as a protectant
 
Tried it, and discovered that every bore I used it in as a protectant, caused rust.
This was in an air conditioned climate. Now my friend uses it for cleaning, and making moose milk. I gave my supply to him.

I clean with Windex, and WD40 as a protectant
Mineral oil (Ballistol) causing rust unbelievable. Obviously poor surface preparation. Like rust popping through new paint caused by poor surface preparation.
Windex, the stuff guaranteed not to clean a kitchen window of cooking grease. Maybe he used the vinegar containing variety at least that one will neutralize the base pH of BP fouling.
WD40 the stuff with zero lubrication properties and guaranteed to gum up an action as it varnish content dries.

Hopeless

A quality synthetic gun oil and ordinary Hoppe’s #9 would do better, much better.

Windex & WD40 on a firearm what a joke.
 
Anyone ever use a product called LPS3 for protective storage ?
Coincidentally, I just bought a can of it for "general tool protection" (mostly outdoor tools), and haven't even taken the plastic wrap off it yet. :rolleyes: At some point I may try it on firearms, but it's in a spray can and usually that's not the best approach for me when it comes to applying to guns.
 
Coincidentally, I just bought a can of it for "general tool protection" (mostly outdoor tools), and haven't even taken the plastic wrap off it yet. :rolleyes: At some point I may try it on firearms, but it's in a spray can and usually that's not the best approach for me when it comes to applying to guns.
You do know it’s a water soluble solution???
 
You do know it’s a water soluble solution???
Not sure what you mean by this. It doesn't appear to be water soluble (I just tested it), and the SDS says " no toxicity has been observed in water due to extremely low water solubility ". Plus, there are a lot of testimonials about its protective use in wet, and even salt water, environments. And it contains a wax -- which is not water soluble. Where is your information from about the solubility?
 
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Now, mineral oil (which is the main ingredient in Ballistol) causes rust.

This is like an alternative universe.
If the mineral oil in Ballistol causes rust, then why are the three barrels of my smoke poles completely rust free? One having been stored for over 10 years without touching it? I live in a high humidity area.
 
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