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Barrel pitting?
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Gollywomper
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I really think it was fired before I received it and not cleaned.
The sight screw and the clean out screw both were marred by tools before I unboxed the rifle.
It all threw me for a loop as this is my first ML, I was questioning my cleaning and storing process. I have reviewed this process with my Dad and Uncle who are Trafitional fanatics and very involved in the local Ronda scene. So they are hardly with the profiles as well.
I think me being green did not recognize the signs when the gun was new and paused for inspections.
Need for a mint bores for accuracy are often overrated with both BP cartridge guns & muzzleloaders.
I've obtained match grade accuracy in original guns that are 100-200 years old with rough bores that been neglected for decades but still had good rifling & chambers.
After after a good safety inspection of the breech, lapping the bore & new nipple & occasional touch hole liner they performed well.
I've obtained match grade accuracy in original guns that are 100-200 years old with rough bores that been neglected for decades but still had good rifling & chambers.
After after a good safety inspection of the breech, lapping the bore & new nipple & occasional touch hole liner they performed well.
I’ve seen trapdoor Springfield barrels that looked like a sewer pipe shoot great. I also will NEVER look at a bore with a bore scope again!!
For me it’s very simple. Is it hard to load with a good ball-patch combo? Are patches sometimes shredded? Then it needs fixing. If neither of those is a problem, I’d not worry about it.
Gollywomper
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That is one of the silliest thing ever…….
Just pretend like there is no problem because it is a primitive rifle.
“ye shall only walk or ride a horse to the shooting destination” No modern technological advances.
If we are going primitive let’s go all the way.
For the record, I was having some continued rust, loading and cleaning issues. Even after some very lengthy cleaning sessions. The magical camera helped me identify the problem.
Old Hawkeye
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You're making much ado over nothing, IMHO. I think you need to do some load development & actually see how the barrel performs before passing judgement. You haven't given the rifle a chance before condemning it from a picture. You would be surprised by all the barrels that don't "photograph" well, but shoot extremely well.
Gollywomper
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It shoots fine. Here is a photo of my first few shots on my last outing when it would not load smooth at all.
Make no mistake it shoots fine. I am concerned that a rifle less than a year old and has less than 100 shots looks like this. As well as what kind of trouble will it present for the life of the barrel, will it always be a pain to clean? Or will it go unnoticed now that it has been scrubbed and polished a bit?
This is not a prb rifle. I shoot full bore conicals as its use is for elk/mule deer hunting.
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It took a Colonoscopy camera for you to identify a spot of rust? I use the feel of a patch on a jag, and the color patches come out when cleaning. But that's how they did it for 300 years. Knock yourself out with your little camera. I've been shooting black powder (competitively quite a bit) since the 1970s. I have never seen a purpose of microscopic imagery for BP guns, smokeless either. It's "the next new thing" that people jump on, but it's absolutly not needed.
Gollywomper
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I am sure you are an accomplished shooter with lots of experience. Some of use are fairly new and are looking for answers. I had an issue and wanted to see what was happening inside the barrel. Some wonder why the sport is dieing, this is why. Bitter old timers with all the experience want to ridicule anyone new who does things a bit different. Instead of welcoming folks and explaining why you do things your way you try to blast them on how we are dumb and you have all the answers.
Do you still draw you water by hand from a well?
You melt your own lead from a wood fire?
The internet is fairly new technology, we didnt use it 300 years ago yet here you are. I will wait for the next reply from the Pony Express, since the old route runs straight through my neighborhood I should receive your response quickly?
It is really easy to scroll on when you dont have anything to add to a thread.
If you truly love what we are all trying to do, then find a way to pass it along and build folks and the hobby up to insure it is passed on to the new generations.
Hey golly wopper, I gotta say you sound like you like to express some strong opinions. But I'm a systems engineer and worked with the Stealth Fighter and many other high tech things in my life. Worked for NASA, and most of the Aerospace companies as a consultant. Was an electronics warfare technician during the Cold War. Worked on Cray computers. I don't need to hear any more of your "interesting" points, life is too short.
So I'm setting you on Ignore. Your ideas about technology are frankly, insipid.
Go lecture someone else. Enjoy your bore scope and other technology. I've been way above that stuff.
So I'm setting you on Ignore. Your ideas about technology are frankly, insipid.
Go lecture someone else. Enjoy your bore scope and other technology. I've been way above that stuff.
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Gollywomper
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I never questioned your intelligence or experience. Your ego and this exchange has left me Antifogmatic.
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Hmmmm..... Very interesting post and responses .... Cool
Nothing like a good range war over a cup of coffee!
Gollywomper
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I admit it was quite childish. We shall move along…..
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LOL ... Well .... I meant before the goofy stuff 
It slips out like diarrhea. I can’t help it. I make people hate me.LOL ... Well .... I meant before the goofy stuff
Mike in FL
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Just one man's stance, but if I had a pitted bore, I'd replace it. I think more of my muzzleloaders than I do my unmentionables. Every man must decide for himself.
Gollywomper
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That’s the plan if Traditions can get me a part number. A custom barrel would cost as much as I paid for this rifle, so I am hoping Traditions can supply a part number for a replacement. They do not make the gun or carry many spare parts
So we will so how it plays out.
If this was an older rifle with history I would live with it. However it is not. It is a rifle that was delivered to me in June. So not even a year old yet. To me that’s not character or wear or life. It is neglect and inexperience.
I know what happened, I was too inexperienced or dumb to catch it when the rifle was new/delivered. Oh well, mistake made and we must move on.
