Best practise on cutting round patches

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Black Hand said:
garra said:
What am I doing wrong?
You're trying to make round patches..... :v
BrownBear said:
I get perfectly sized round patches every time with no effort at all. I just cut at the muzzle from strips I tore from the original sheet of fabric.
marmotslayer said:
You are wasting time and energy to create round patches solely to emulate an unnecessary commercial product. Cut em at the muzzle or cut em square!
Many of us have gone through a "round patch" period and subsequently moved on. :haha: do yourself a favor and leave the idea behind
Rip or cut strips, and cut at the muzzle, no worries, no leaks, perfect every time.
 
What Necchi said.

Cut them at the muzzle when loading from strips; pre-lubed or lubed as needed.

Always perfectly centered and exactly the right amount.

Fastest method as well.

Plan B is to use wood loading blocks and cut flush after pressing the ball onto the material and into the block. When hunting I carry three patched balls this way in a sleeve on my horn strap so I don't have to open the shooting bag to load or reload.
 
now if you're just using a scissors...you're definitely wasting your time.

I coulda knawed out a hundred patches with my teeth in the time I wasted typing on this topic! :shocked2: :rotf:

Here it is, less than a month to ml deer opener and I'm wasting time talking about patches! Gotta get my priorities straightened out. :haha:
 
the drill press is the way to go. I can cut a thousand round patches in a half hour or less.
 
i cut at the muzzle. washed fabric, cut apox 1 1/4 in wide strips, soak in a ballistol mix, lie flat, let dry. done. i save the scrap and my cleaning patches (all 100% cotton) rewash them and make charcloth with them. no waste. the patch is always centered as is the ball. not that hard. irishtoo
 
Don't know. I bought an arch punch for my fifty. Not very impressed at all with it, I just went back to cutting at the muzzle, it works every time.
 
marmotslayer said:
What am I doing wrong?

You are wasting time and energy to create round patches solely to emulate an unnecessary commercial product. Cut em at the muzzle or cut em square!

Many of us have gone through a "round patch" period and subsequently moved on. :haha: do yourself a favor and leave the idea behind! The sooner you do that, you can get on to other fixations, such as black powder solvent vs Water; shoot in vs lap it; 1:48 vs 1:66; horn on separate strap vs attached to the bag strap; short starter vs no starter; PRB vs conical (or comical, depending on which side you Land on); wood rod vs metal rod; cap vs flint; move vs redheads; smooth vs rifled; spit vs lube; my lube vs everybody else's; square rifling vs round; adjustable sight vs fixed; .40 vs .45 vs .50 vs .54 vs .58; weight vs volume; PC/HC vs everything else; paper patch vs naked; reload every night vs leave it till the end of the season; 75 yard sight in vs 100 yard sight in; chronograph vs no way will I chrono; 2f vs 3f; Swiss vs every other powder ever made; Claude's opinion vs yours (not really an option on this one); compressed vs not; swamped vs straight; maple vs walnut; free classifieds vs pay classifieds; boiling water vs room temperature; WD 40 vs everything else; ............ My head is starting to hurt, somebody else needs to finish this! :shocked2:

Your first sentence is the best response to the gentleman's quandry.
All the rest of it is making MY head hurt...knowing I have a brand new rifle, and have to figure all that stuff out for it. :shocked2:
 
Easy way, take a hole saw and a dremmel tool. Chuck the saw in the drill press's with out the pilot drill. Grind the teeth off while the press is running. Then grind the cutting bevel on the outside of the ex saw. Carefully take a piece of fine sand paper to the inside of the saw cup to deburr while the press is turning. Then stone the outside, repeat the deburrring. Now you have a razor sharp patch cutter. Using the drill press you can buzz through 8 to 10 layers of patch material. Use a softwood backer for a cutting board. Warning any contact with the spinning edge of the cutter WILL result in a instant cut finger etc. In the time it took me to type this I could have easily buzzed 100 patches. BJH
 
Also. A easy way to make the patch matieral strips is with a guillotine paper cutter. It will easily cut through 6 or more layers of cloth. I just fold the cloth line it up and slice. I make cleaning patches this way too. I help out at youth field days and Boy Scout events and use a lot of shooting patches and cleaning patches each year. I believe a thousand or two at least. So economy of time and material is important. When the birdies fly over my house they cry Ceep!
 
marmotslayer said:
What am I doing wrong?

You are wasting time and energy to create round patches solely to emulate an unnecessary commercial product. Cut em at the muzzle or cut em square!

Many of us have gone through a "round patch" period and subsequently moved on. :haha: do yourself a favor and leave the idea behind! The sooner you do that, you can get on to other fixations, such as black powder solvent vs Water; shoot in vs lap it; 1:48 vs 1:66; horn on separate strap vs attached to the bag strap; short starter vs no starter; PRB vs conical (or comical, depending on which side you Land on); wood rod vs metal rod; cap vs flint; move vs redheads; smooth vs rifled; spit vs lube; my lube vs everybody else's; square rifling vs round; adjustable sight vs fixed; .40 vs .45 vs .50 vs .54 vs .58; weight vs volume; PC/HC vs everything else; paper patch vs naked; reload every night vs leave it till the end of the season; 75 yard sight in vs 100 yard sight in; chronograph vs no way will I chrono; 2f vs 3f; Swiss vs every other powder ever made; Claude's opinion vs yours (not really an option on this one); compressed vs not; swamped vs straight; maple vs walnut; free classifieds vs pay classifieds; boiling water vs room temperature; WD 40 vs everything else; ............ My head is starting to hurt, somebody else needs to finish this! :shocked2:

yes ... you don't really need round patches ... somewhere in a land far away, someone did the arithmetic, and determined that the patch was spinning at about a zillion rpm when it left the muzzle, at which time the spin makes the patch spread out to the maximum extent possible, after which it flies into still air at well over the speed of sound, leaving the bit of rapidly cooling cloth to flutter to the ground. end of problem. the shape has no effect (other than theoretical) on the eventual strike of the round downrange.

there are other much more important things about which you should worry:

solvent vs. water (warm - not hot water. no question)

shoot vs. lap (shoot, unless you have unlimited money, in which case, send me a PM: I'm your new very best buddy)

1:48 vs. 1:66 (that depends upon the rate of twist in your barrel, but I like barrels which are straight shooters)

horn on strap vs. horn on bag (horn on bag, but do what works best for you)

short starter vs. no starter (whazzat? whazza 'starter?')

PRB vs. conical (PRB, unless you're shooting a BP ctg rifle)

wood vs. metal (wood, duh, unless Brown Bess or military WBTS musket)

cap vs. flint (is this test for our class?)

.40 vs. a bunch of other stuff (i like the .40, but it's admittedly not enough gun for moose or elk)

smooth vs. rifled (depends on the load, I suppose)

spit vs. lube (lube: if it's good enough for Dutch Schoultz, it out to work for me)

reload every night vs. leave it... (reload it: if you can't be bothered to fire, clean and reload at the end of the day, you should rethink your time management)

and so on ... I'm sure I've irritated everyone here, and we left out the ever popular lead vs. leather flint wrap


so: if I were in your position, I would make square patches using one of those clever round cutter gadgets and a plastic board. you should get your own circular gadget, and your own board, and keep them with your gun stuff. this way, your wife/girlfriend/significant other will never confront you with, "honey, what happened to my [fill in name of incredibly esoteric and expensive tool here]?" (this is lingo for: "you dumba$$, you broke/damaged/lost my [...esoteric and expensive tool] and you'd better 'fess up and offer to get me a new one right now if you know what's good for you")

if you want, you can get into cutting patches at the muzzle... this allows you to use a patch knife, and it looks way cool, and it works just as well as any other patching method. and it will make you thin, rich, and sexually attractive.

:rotf:

make good smoke! :grin:
 
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