If folk can get BP to mix with subs....why go through all the extra steps; just use BP, it ain't 2020 no more??
You mean mix up BP and sub, then load the gun with the mix?If folk can get BP to mix with subs....why go through all the extra steps; just use BP, it ain't 2020 no more??
I never heard of pre-mixing it, perhaps some do.You mean mix up BP and sub, then load the gun with the mix?
I have never heard of anyone doing it, and I don't advise it. BP is a sulphurous nitride. The chemical makeup of subs is a cellulose nitride. I don't know what that mix will do. I know some folks will load small BP charge and then the rest on top in PDX or 777. Never done that, but I heard of folks who do. Duplex loads I b'lieve they call it.
Mixing just sounds like a terrible idea. All the disadvantages of both and advantages of neither with a maybe at the end.
PM sent. I'll fix you up.Hello All,
I‘ve learned black powder is unavailable here in the Green Bay Area of Wisconsin. Retailers only carry Pyrodex and a few have Triple 7. I have less than 1/2 lb. of Goex powder left and was hoping to buy a can for deer season. I do have a pound of unopened Pyrodex that was given to me, but I’ve never shot the stuff. If I resort to using it, what recommendations does anyone have that I should keep in mind? I’ve heard rumors about accuracy. Thanks for any help you can give.
Maybe by pouring a little BP makes their Substitute last longer?
Yes, I know. I just get a kick out of everyone trying to defend it and talk others into it as if it's the new way of doing things.It's a thing with flint shooters and some cap shooters. It's to give the advantage of BP ignition.
I agree with you on just using black but if I were needing to shoot a flint and I had only a small amount of BP but had pyrodex immediately available and time was short I'd be doing it.
Your powder leaves a nasty blue residue on the shooters face though…I have never shot substitute powders ever. Black powder is hard to find here and the last can of Swiss I saw was $85. I just buy KNO3 and Sulpher, make my own balls and patches, I guess I`m just tight but it works and comes out at about $1 a pound. Under 2-inch groups at 50yds.View attachment 264669
Still trying to wash it off.Your powder leaves a nasty blue residue on the shooters face though…
Sorry to contradict you, Longcruise, but I do a fair amount of shooting. I’ve just never shot Pyrodex before and was looking for some insight. Anyone reading through the replies will discern there are a lot of differing opinions about that substitute. Some like it, others don’t. To me, it seems like more respondents are not impressed with Pyrodex. So, I choose to stick with black powder, which is almost impossible to purchase without investing a few hundred dollars. I dislike having to tie up $250 going into winter and in this economy just to get a few pounds of powder. I highly applaud several members on this forum who have offered to help me out with my shortfall. Thank you!If that seriously ls your your takeaway then you are missing the reality.
I had a half container of pyrodex on the shelf for over 20 years and it worked just fine. I've shot it on target and over chronograph goex 2f and Pyrodex RS. Accuracy equal and velocity too close to matter. It is, in fact, the most economical propellant available. There are 30% more shots by equal volume compared to goex.
I get the impression that you are not a frequent shooter so jumping through the BP hoops might not be worth it to you so pyrodex is a good solution.
Sorry to contradict you, Longcruise, but I do a fair amount of shooting.
I was gifted an open can of pistol pyrodex about 15 years ago. It was opened way back given to me, clumped and unclumped and shoots just fine? The can has stayed in AZ its whole live (which I am guessing is over 25 years. No humidity may be why I can get away with it and you cannot? I get same POI as new pyrode. This all said I would MUCH prefer recommend 777 over pyrodex and have ordered a possible life time supply of Schutez on line from Crater Fireworks and one other place thats in the old guy section of the brain at this time.Pyrodex does not store well once opened. Black powder will keep in definitely as long as it is kept dry. But if Pyrodex is all you can get locally and don;t want to pay the haz mat fees for small quantities user it.
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