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aloyalistdawg

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Hello guys
So how do you hide, or mix in blaze orange during the blk gun season... This stuff kills stocking...
My best regards Loyalistdawg
 
I don't hide it. Had a lot of deer walk right by me and never pay the orange any never mind. Need to worry more about movement than what color your wearing. :v
 
Regs here require 500 sq in. on the head, chest and back. The hat I use is orange but it's broken up with sort sploches of green and brown. For head and chest I wear a lightweight orange vest. Some of the back is broken up with a small pack I wear to carry extras I'll need depending on the weather and type of hunting, the front from the fact that the vest is only tied with a string so some of my shirt is visible too. For outerwear a plaid wool shirt on top of black/light brown, on bottom plaid wool hunting pants in green/black.

I don't think the deer see the orange as we do but will see your movement and/or LARGE areas of the same shade. I had a whole herd of does eating in front of me for ca. 2 hrs this season, some only 30 yds away. I was just leaning up against a dead tree on the edge of an old wood road. They would raise their heads once in a while and look right down the trail in my direction but as long as I did not move while they were watching they assumed I was part of the stump.

The buck never did come along and something spooked them from the far side of their group just before dark.....

Anyway avoid all solid colors as much as possible and don't move if they are looking.
 
aloyalistdawg said:
Hello guys
So how do you hide, or mix in blaze orange during the blk gun season... This stuff kills stocking...
My best regards Loyalistdawg
Deer don't give a hoot about hunter orange...I wear lots of it and fill my tags at close range from the ground, some 10-15 yards away...scent & movement are everything.
 
Well guys
We did an experiment last year... We had shot a deer and stripped our coat etc off... Then a buck appeared while we were gutting it... My bud pointed to him, we had our tags all filled out.
So my bud waved at him.. he just looked then looked away... Then we moved a camo bag, same thing. I put on a blaze glove held it up... GONE!!! wow could he run. I found out they see it as white in colour... gee what is white on a white tail... what does the white mean... get the picture...
my best regards Loyalistdawg
 
Could it be he just thought it time to get? And just reacted to the movement. Deer are a curious animal and I've seen them do the same thing. Anything you waved at him in the begining, he saw it.
 
I wear an orange hat which fills the bill for my state. I hunt private land with two other guys and if there is more than one of us on the property we know where each is. If I were hunting state land I would be in orange from head to toe.

Yep deer see it as white and it don't bother them one bit. If you got snow that much the better. Don't try to cover up what may save your life especially if you hunt public land.

They react to movement not color. I don't believe in camo much either, neutral earth tones work just fine. Todays camo is made to please the hunters eye not hide from the deer.
 
I wear the camo orange (breaks up my shape a little). As has already been mentioned, however, I think wind direction, sound, and movement are of far greater consequence than color.
 
aloyalistdawg said:
Well guys
We did an experiment last year... We had shot a deer and stripped our coat etc off... Then a buck appeared while we were gutting it... My bud pointed to him, we had our tags all filled out.
So my bud waved at him.. he just looked then looked away... Then we moved a camo bag, same thing. I put on a blaze glove held it up... GONE!!! wow could he run. I found out they see it as white in colour... gee what is white on a white tail... what does the white mean... get the picture...
my best regards Loyalistdawg
Interesting story but really means nothing regarding a deer's concern about hunter orange.

One of the 10 pointers I shot a year ago stopped 20 yards away and stared at me sitting on the ground leaning against a pine tree trying to figure out what thios new blob was just outside his sanctuary...I was wearing a blaze orange cap and hunting coatt...unconcerned, he looked away at something else, I raised the Flintlock and killed him.

Deer don't give a hoot about hunter orange...scent and movement are everything.
 
Our regs say we have to have orange front, back and a hat. I wear a coat and my hat, compleatly blase orange. Deer do not see me unless I move. I still hunted and got close enough to shoot several deer this year.
 
I read somewhere a couple of years ago that deer don't really see in black and white. They actually see color but not the red part of the spectrum. They see yellow, green, blue and even farther into the ultra-violet range (helps 'em see in the dark). Since they don't see red, blaze orange looks yellow to deer.

Nobody will ever know for sure since you can't get a deer to answer. Whatever they see it as, blaze orange won't spook 'em unless it's moving. Just like any other color.
 
roundball said:
aloyalistdawg said:
Hello guys
So how do you hide, or mix in blaze orange during the blk gun season... This stuff kills stocking...
My best regards Loyalistdawg
Deer don't give a hoot about hunter orange...I wear lots of it and fill my tags at close range from the ground, some 10-15 yards away...scent & movement are everything.


I'll even agree with Roundball on this one....I walked up on Many Large Bucks in the November woods up here wearing Blaze Orange Oil Gear(Rain Gear for you Land Lubbers).I pay more attention to Wind direction and Try not to move very fast.
 
I am going to respond to this in an extreme way. I don't care what the regulations say I CAN DO -- I always wear some hunter orange. About 5 years ago I almost shot a dove hunter, who was completely in cammo and in a blind, while I was woodchuck hunting. he knew I was there because I arrived on the scen after him and had the manditory orange hat - but made no sign to let me know he was there - and a woodie popped up between me and him. It is a darned good thing I always check my backstop before shooting or there may have been a close enconter of the very worse kind. And yes I did raise heck when I saw him in the scope.
 
I have to agree that movement/scent are the most importent things to consider. The mention of deer seeing deeper into the UV end of the spectrum got me thinking. Many of todays detergents have "whiteners" added to them to make colors brighter. It's my understanding that these whiteners are based on the UV side of things so that we see a brighter color when we look at it. Could this be why we sometimes spook a deer? Maybe something we are wearing has been washed and has a different "look" to it that is unnatural to the deers surroundings? Hmmm something to think about n consider. Oh yea I also agree that the vast magority of products out there ie camo, scents etc are more to catch the hunter then the quarry. Many of the products will work, but to me are not really all that much of a help. I guess I'm old fashioned in that I believe getting out in the woods before hand and scouting yer area and understanding the deers movements n why are much more effective.YMHS Birdman
 
I got mixed feelings about the orange but I agree about the camo, scents and knowing deer habits. I don't usually wear camo. Only have one set and if it's on top I wear it, if not I don't. Don't use scent or calls and I smoke some while I hunt. Still manage to get a deer or two. I do have green fields my brother in law planted but neither of the two deer I got this year were in one. I don't get to hunt a lot either. Only been five times this year, about three hours per hunt.
 
"ELK DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FEET A HORSE HAS"

And deer don't know orange from green.

Since blaze orange is the law here in Michigan, an orange wool hooded cape is the answer for me.

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aloyalistdawg said:
Hello guys
So how do you hide, or mix in blaze orange during the blk gun season... This stuff kills stalking...

I had a bowhunting friend and we took black and white photos of all kinds of hunting clothing. Blaze is better than Treebark in most conditions. Only slightly behind snow camo with any snow on the ground. It is a neutral gray color to a colorblind deer.

I wear hat, jacket, bib overalls and gloves of 10 mile cloth blaze orange in the regular season and have killed bucks within 10 yards while on the ground on several occasions. I stood in the middle of a main loging roadway and had a large doe and smaller deer walk right up to me. Shot her from a few feet as she spun around.

A deer will run from a moving stump with eyes just as fast as a hunter in blaze orange. But no doubt, good camo breaks up your outline and can hide small movements. Bad camo just looks like a big dark person.
 
In my opinion camo is not for the deer, but for the small animals and birds. This goes for the gun as well. Fully camoflaged, the small animals are active right up to me, without they shy away. The deer seem to slip around the dead zones. All that said movement controll is paramount!
 
Maybe the deer can't see it but I can! And I hate the dam stuff. probably because I hate the government putting more and more regulations on me. They are not for my safety they are to make me easy to control.
Old Charlie
 
ALD,
I'm with 'roundball' on this one. I make no special effort to mix the orange in. If its a vest
I wear it like a vest. Coat, hat, overalls I treat
the same way. I am a firm believer in using blaze
orange so I don't try to conceal it in anyway.
On the other hand when it comes to scent and
movement I am a fanatic.
snake-eyes :hatsoff:
 
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