blown patches

[Roy]

You got that thing shooting soooooo fast that the patch just catches fire from friction. :shocked2: :grin:

 

[Rebel]

Must be it. But this isn't the lock you worked on, this is a Large Siler. But it is fast too. :grin:

 

[paulvallandigham]

All I can suggest without actually seeing the gun and how you load it, is to try FFG powder, instead of FFFg powder. We know that some guns with some loads will burn a patch using 3Fg powder, when the same volume of 2Fg powder does not burn the patch.

 

[Rebel]

May work except all i have is 3f, and quite a bit of it. As long as accuracy is good i guess i will stick with it. I can use the leather patches to keep from starting a fire. Even though they burn up too, they don't smolder like cloth.

 

[Roy]

what kind of lube are you using? shouldn't really matter though or even what type of powder, just seems that the wad would take care of that :youcrazy: A wad worked wonders with the wall gun.

 

[Rebel]

Yea, i have always had good luck using a wad under a patched ball in a smoothie. I have bear oil and beeswax lube, but don't use a lot on them. May need to soak them in it.

 

[Wes/Tex]

One of Sam Fadala's tricks that works in rifles is to insert the next smaller size lubed patch on the powder before loading the patched ball. This worked on loads up to 200 grains of powder, but again, this was in a rifle. I've never had a problem with smooth bores since I started using leather patches.

 

[Roy]

Yea, i have always had good luck using a wad under a patched ball in a smoothie. I have bear oil and beeswax lube, but don't use a lot on them. May need to soak them in it.

Thats what I use, but I do use a fair amount.

 

[roundball]

Yea, i have always had good luck using a wad under a patched ball in a smoothie. I have bear oil and beeswax lube, but don't use a lot on them. May need to soak them in it.

Remote possibility question here...maybe what's happening is that the "wads" are what's burning?
Nothing else makes sense given everything you've described...

 

[Rebel]

Bill, no, i have found the smoldering patches. The leather ones don't smolder but they are burned in a circle. Doesn't make sense to me. Will have to try more lube on the patches. These were just rubbed across the tim of lube until i had lube on the powder side. I didn't lube both sides.

 

[paulvallandigham]

RebelL: you say the leather patches burn in a circle. How big a diameter is that circle? That does still suggest that flame is blowing past the Over powder wad you are using.

As to the patches, you should impregnate the patches thoroughly with your lube --preferrably a day or two before going to the range, or into the field to hunt-- rather than simply wipe some of you homemade lube on a patch at the range.I like to zap the patches for about 10 seconds in my microwave to soften the lube and help it flow into the fibers of the fabric faster. That is not enough time for the lube to begin to stink up the kitchen, BTW.

I carry my lubed patches in a small brass cannister I bought from Tedd Cash products, in my bag. I have another cannister that carries my swaged balls, although when hunting, I carry the balls in a leather ball bag. The cannister holds more balls than my bag, so I use it on the range.

 

[Rebel]

All that is left of the patches is the outer ring. I usually do soak my rifle patches through with lube, but figured since i was using wads in the smoothbore that they wouldn't need that much lube. Guess i was wrong. If it quits raining here i plan to try it again with heavily lubed patches and see what happens.

 

[roundball]

OUTER RING is left?

MAYBE YOU'RE SOAKING YOUR WADS IN KEROSENE AND THEY BECOME A BLOW TORCH UNDER THE PATCHES!!
:grin:


Makes no sense...

 

[Rebel]

Well if that's the case they were pre-soaked at Track. :grin: But your right, it doesn't make sense.