Bragging

[RC]

flinch, yer right! usually it's after they shoot at a deer,they wonder where the unround(?)thing went.....very,very, verry saaadddddddddddddd!RC

 

[faw3]

If everyone likes the ""Hey !! You sit down to pee too?" you'll love this , after shooting Sharps ,Remington, ect for years I thought everything but RBs was for target shooting, you use a long one for 1000 yd shots right ? No one could figure out why I used a big ( 54,58 ) RB to hunt with and all kinds of wild stuff on the range, just goes to show it takes all kinds, and no one ever told me different, and in no book will ya find you use this kind for just this or that. :redface: I've used nothing but RBs for years now for both kinds of shooting, well would if I still went out to hunt. (shooting wild hogs here is doing everyone a favor no hunting and I use a 62 on them with a 50 for back up.) Fred :hatsoff: (point of all this is if you dont tell a newbe or even a older guy some point that seems strage he may never know, I sure didnt.) :shake:

 

[BadHeart]

I would love to see him shoot that much powder. I don't like the way 80 grans of powder feels in my cva hawkin.

 

[Zonie]

Just my opinion, but folks who use 150+ grains of powder in their guns are trying to make the gun so powerful that they don't need to make a well placed shot. The power of the gun will make up for their poor shooting.

This is a common trait which explains the popularity of the modern Magnum (and Short Magnum) rifles on the market today.

It's the "By golly! If this thing even comes close to hitting them we'll be eating tonite!" syndrome.

zonie

 

[Tim Clark]

I was in the local Gander Mountain store the other day. I happened to see the (small) black powder section and remembered that I needed caps, they only had the newer Remington #11's, I asked the guy if that was the only brand they carried. He didn't answer my question, rather he asked, "What are you shooting, anyhow?" I answered, "You mean shooting as in gun or as in game?" He said "gun," I told him sidelock, but before I finished he started shaking his head and raised his voice and said, "When are you guys going to upgrade to the modern inlines? Or do you like to go around missing deer?"

I looked at him, and said, "UPGRADE?!?! You actually have the nerve to call an inline an upgrade?!?!?! I took two deer with my muzzleloader last year besides one with rifle and another with archery, how many did you get?" Now, I haven't really got a care in the world about what someone shoots as long as they shoot well and shoot responsibly. But he just got under my skin and I was in no mood to let someone eat my lunch. He gave me the caps and said that was all they carried.

Talk about ignorance? You ain't sen NOTHING til you've seen a compound user give me hell for shooting a longbow or recurve... "Ya can't kill nothing with that little thang, when ya gonna get a real bow?" By the way, I also have a couple of compound bows, I just prefer the way that my selfbows and recurves handle and shoot. AND take game. Just me, just my preference.

You're right, it's everywhere in everything in life, but mostly hunting sports it seems to percolate up like a bad septic system....

 

[Slamfire]

It's the "By golly! If this thing even comes close to hitting them we'll be eating tonite!" syndrome.

zonie

My Pap got a 6mm Remington one year and shot a nice buck outa the kitchen window. When we were skinnin' it my brother said, "there ain't no bullet hole".

"Great," says Pap, "this is the rifle I been lookin' for all my life, the one that scares 'em to death." :rotf:

 

[Stumpkiller]

His hat size may be bigger than Einstein's, but that don't make him smarter.

I generally tell such folks that I just took the time to learn how to hunt so I could get closer. :haha:

 

[Boomer]

"When are you guys going to upgrade to the modern inlines? Or do you like to go around missing deer?"

:cursing:

I had a similar episode last year at Cabelas. I looked him in the Eye & said "You don't know much about muzzleloading do you!" It wasn't phrased as a question. He lowered his head & walked away.

Dont feel like the lone ranger Tim, I have a very short fuse when it comes to the pellet pushers thumbing their noses.

PS I love my Black Widow LGB too :winking:

 

[Stumpkiller]

Talk about ignorance? You ain't sen NOTHING til you've seen a compound user give me hell for shooting a longbow or recurve... "Ya can't kill nothing with that little thang, when ya gonna get a real bow?" By the way, I also have a couple of compound bows, I just prefer the way that my selfbows and recurves handle and shoot. AND take game. Just me, just my preference.

I got run out of Mt Trail Bowhunters in Castle Creek, NY for having the nerve to practice on the outdoor 3-D targets. The pin sighted compound shooters didn't think it was right to "practice" on the 3-D targets. "They are just for 3-D shoots" and my field point tipped wood arrows put "too big a hole in the foam". "Shouldn't have to practice on 3-D targets once you're sighted in, anyway". Sights? :shake: They didn't want me shooting inside for fear my glue-on points would come off in the compressed bales and break their carbon shafts, so I was supposed to shoot on the edge of the parkinglot at the outdoor straw bales - at the same membership price. Thanks, but no thanks guys. Though, I think the kicker was when I told them there was no way they broke a shaft on one of my lost glue-on points. I told them "I dig all mine out with a pocket knife, they cost money, ya know."
:rotf:

And everyone knows compounds are just beginner bows with training wheels. :rotf:

Moving up from a sidelock to an in-line is like moving up from Guniess to Coors Light.

 

[Mad Professor]

"A good bowshot is when the fletching just leaves the bow and the point is nearly home" :winking:

Just like inlines, some think lack of practice/skill can be compensated with "technology"....

 

[faw3]

Same story , same store , different state... :hmm: I went out with nothing just set the stuff I picked up down and walked. Fred :hatsoff:

 

[gcebulka]

I just smile at these folks, give them a look of pity and say "really don;t know much about firearms do ya now?" and walk away.

 

[renovato]

Tim, he was probably just trying to sell you a new gun. Guns don't just wear out and get replaced regularly like so many of our other items. To sell you a new one, they try to make you dislike the one you already have. It's a common marketing tactic.

"It can survive being frozen in ice, dropped from airplanes, buried in mud, ran over by bulldozers and all sorts of other things you don't need a gun to do. Can YOUR gun do that? That's why you need to buy ours."
Sound familiar?

I dislike it more than anyone I've ever met. I don't blame you for getting annoyed.

 

[shortjack]

I wish there was some statistics on how many deerare taken with inlines and how many are taken with traditionals. I often wonder how many deer are shot and lost by the inline crowd because they think they can take a 300 yard shot because that is what a lot of people who shoot them say. Most inliners I've met at the rifle range shoot a couple of shots off the bench and say they're go to go, I've never found shooting benches or sand bags or markers telling the distance the target is out in the field.

 

[Old Charlie]

I have not hunted with a lot folks with those guns, but most of the time when I did they couldn't get the things to shoot. Don't rember anyone killing a deer with one.
Old Charlie

 

[ronrryan]

In many years of deer hunting I often observed that the hunters with the most knowledge of ballistics tables, most high-powered rifles, and most complicated gear, were the worst hunters in the woods--noisy, clumsy, unobservant, etc. Not an inviolable rule, but happened often enough to get my attention. Might be the same thing is true of inliners, to some extent. I guess I am biased, being a flintlock shooter. Good smoke, ron in Fla

 

[roundball]

"...Not an inviolable rule, but happened often enough to get my attention. Might be the same thing is true of inliners, to some extent..."

I think a definite trend exists among new hunters who have emerged in the recent past to be 'technologists...high power long range muzzleloaders', laser range finders, infrared heat detectors, scent lock suits, eliminator scents, cover scents, attractants, trail cameras, automatic feeding stations, etc, etc, etc...a gadget, a lure, a technology solution for every hunting situation...heck, putting aside there's not much time spent learning about deer hunting, I don't how they can afford it all :grin:

 

[Boomer]

I agree with you RB.

IMO what is happening is these 'gadget gurus' are in large part guys that did not grow up in a sporting familiy. Everything they know was gleaned from guns & ammo & sports afield. Not that they are a bad resource, lord knows I learn things from them too but there is no replacing having someone show you in the woods how something is done.

The 'gadget gurus' are mearly using technology to make up for a lack of proper education :hmm:

 

Speakin of gadgets,has anyone seen the new arrow rest that has magnets on three sides?When you draw back the magnets attract the metal insert on your arrow and makes it float at full draw.Kind of reminds me of powder on a stick.The guys at work all shoot inlines,they shoot right before huntin season to make sure they are sighted.They talk about how they can shoot up to 200 yards.Well one of them shot a big 4x4 buck at 30 yards and hit it to far back and lost the animal.Said he was gonna use a bigger grain of power belt cause the smaller power belt didnt killed it.I dont think he took the time to get a good shot.Maybe if it was at 200 yards he could have killed it.Its hard to keep my big mouth shout when people are talkin trash.So I just nod my head when they are talkin and put the trash in the round file.

 

[bwhoffman]

anymore, I walk away, and bless myself that I'm not like them.
I find that no matter the groud, no matter the topic or method....someone is always better than the the last guy.

Those distances for black powder and an ethical clean kill on an animal.... wow,sounds like zumbo 101!
I guess there will always be somebody with a ladder as to how they can get a pee mark on the barn wall higher than the last guy.

Brett