Breech Inspection

[zimmerstutzen]

The only best way, is to obtain or make a new breech plug. Everything else is bubba'd or worse. taking enough off both the breech plug and barrel so it tightens up where it should is 2nd best and could be satisfactory, except it may change the barrel tennon and underrib lining up properly.

punch dimples and shims etc are unsatisfactory at best.

 

[jdkerstetter]

I don't believe anybody has determined if the problem rest with the breech, the barrel or both yet.

I still feel that for anybody to give advice on a "fix" at this point is just irresponsible, I.M.H.O.

We aren't talking about bending a hammer or shimming springs here, we're talking about breech/barrel fit. :2

Enjoy, J.D.

 

[tx50cal]

I will try to get a pic and load it on here.

 

[M. De Land]

As I said previously , I would fit a new plug for a permanent solution.

The lead bushing idea would only be an interim solution but I believe a perfectly safe one as no barrel or plug steel would be removed and it would be nothing more than a very thin gasket compressed against the shoulder and plug. Mike D.

 

[tx50cal]

I will have to figure out the thread size and thread count. I will have to order a replacement T/C style plug from Track of the Wolf. I am pretty sure that it would be a metric thread since it is made in Spain. That is the only problem with replacing the plug that I see.

 

[M. De Land]

A metric thread gauge and mic or caliper will quickly tell the story.
Metric V threads aren't any harder to cut or fit than American. Mike D.

 

[tx50cal]

Ok guys. I took a bunch of pictures. How do I post them? I do not have a photobucket or any other online photo hosting site. The more that I look at it it might be some sort of compression for the plug. This is all factory parts. The plug threads look good and are a little over a half inch long. But the barrel threads are approximately .752 deep. This means from the factory the plug never set on the shoulder. All of the threads look good just maybe slightly stretched. The photo with the plug in the barrel is only finger tight.

 

[Zonie]

You have to join and upload your pictures to a web photo hosting site.

After you do, they usually have a method of "copying" the pictures site address.

If you have the option, select the address that starts with Img or Image. Copy it using your right mouse button, then come here and "paste" it into your post.

 

[gland]

Just my 2 cents worth. Fit with new barrel and breach as JD said. Then build pistols! :v

 

[tx50cal]

 

[tx50cal]

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[tx50cal]

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[tx50cal]

http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/robsmith162/media/2013-07-29_17-04-19_996.jpg.html?sort=3&o=12
http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/robsmith162/media/2013-07-29_17-03-55_4.jpg.html?sort=3&o=13 http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/robsmith162/media/2013-07-29_17-02-20_195.jpg.html?sort=3&o=14

 

[tx50cal]

I hope that I did the links correctly. I can pull them up, but that doesnt mean thet are correct.

 

[okawbow]

 

[tx50cal]

Looks like it works.

 

[tx50cal]

After studying these photos, I think that maybe the best thing would be to remove material from the barrel until the plug sets on the shoulder. I would have to shorten the underrib slightlt and maybe do a little work to the barrel tennon. The threads look good and sharp and seem to be evenly spaced. I can't beleive this rifle came from the factory with a gap at the shoulder.
I talked to my dad last night, he seems to think it came with CVA paperwork.I want to repair it, but I want it safe. I like the way this little light rifle handles and it's a 1:66 twist.

 

[jdkerstetter]

....I can't beleive this rifle came from the factory with a gap at the shoulder....

Why not? It doesn't surprise me in the least. Enjoy, J.D.

 

[tx50cal]

Why is that J.D.? Mass production?

 

[jdkerstetter]

Yep! They engineer these guns to facilitate production, to keep hand work to a minimum....to keep overhead down.

Enjoy, J.D.