Cabela's chaps my hide.

[springfield art]

Went into Bass Pro over the weekend. Stood at the counter for 10 mins. No one said a word to us.
Evidently you have to use your drivers license and "check in" b4 they will talk to you.
We decided never to go back.

Huh. I guess they do a background check before interacting; but you'd think they'd at least acknowledge you. NJ won't show you guns in the display cases until you show a NJ purchaser or owner card; FOID. PA is still pretty cool for purchases; it's a big hunting state, too.

 

[Bullit]

Unfortunately that's exactly what BATFE tells the FFL's is a straw purchase. He's doing the paperwork, you're providing the cash. FWIW my small town LGC has denied purchases because some known felon thug comes in looking for an unmentionable with his babymomma doing the same thing you guys did.

Should have slid him the dinero before you guys went in and had him given you back the change when it was over.

I would have argued this point, even in court. If you had handed the money to the clerk after your son filled out the paperwork, that would be what I consider a straw purchase. But you handed the money to your son and then he would have handed it to the clerk. Different. There's no law against giving someone money and once it's in their possession, it's theirs. What they choose to do with it after that point is their business. You could have owed that money to your son for all the clerk knew. I'm afraid I'd of had some pretty strong words for that woke POS.

 

[Wawyasto]

I would have argued this point, even in court. If you had handed the money to the clerk after your son filled out the paperwork, that would be what I consider a straw purchase. But you handed the money to your son and then he would have handed it to the clerk. Different. There's no law against giving someone money and once it's in their possession, it's theirs. What they choose to do with it after that point is their business. You could have owed that money to your son for all the clerk knew. I'm afraid I'd of had some pretty strong words for that woke POS.

I know, I know. However FFL's are scared to death of even the perception of a straw purchase, so I understand. Once the ATF has it in their mind an FFL is allowing straw purchases, even if they follow the law to the letter, they're under an ATF microscope permanently.

Best case would to have been give the kid the money prior or Granddad buy the gun and gift it to him later.

 

[Rum River]

I would have argued this point, even in court. If you had handed the money to the clerk after your son filled out the paperwork, that would be what I consider a straw purchase. But you handed the money to your son and then he would have handed it to the clerk. Different. There's no law against giving someone money and once it's in their possession, it's theirs. What they choose to do with it after that point is their business. You could have owed that money to your son for all the clerk knew. I'm afraid I'd of had some pretty strong words for that woke POS.

As it was related the cash was handed to the son at the time of purchase. The ATF will not consider that to be different. The ATF actually make a point of that distinction in a lovely training film we were forced to watch.

I'm not defending the ATF.

I'm defending the counter person who has store policies hanging over their head - but to you is just 'that woke POS'.

 

[Bullit]

As it was related the cash was handed to the son at the time of purchase. The ATF will not consider that to be different. The ATF actually make a point of that distinction in a lovely training film we were forced to watch.

I'm not defending the ATF.

I'm defending the counter person who has store policies hanging over their head - but to you is just 'that woke POS'.

I stand firm on my point. It's time to stand up or lay down. I don't lay down for anyone. I've had enough of this woke manure.

 

[Rum River]

I stand firm on my point. It's time to stand up or lay down. I don't lay down for anyone. I've had enough of this woke manure.

That's fine, but I don't understand which 'woke' point you are standing firm on.
Are you blaming the counter person or the ATF?

It's not right for you to refer to the counter person as a POS just because they're stuck with having to follow their multiple boss's interpretation of ATF regulations.

 

[bdsnooks]

Yep, here goes.

Not too long ago the Lowes 10% discount applied to anything in the store except labor and sales items, but they have changed like many others. In the past, I purchased lumber totaling about $12,000, received the 10% discount, and purchased appliances in the past with the 10% discount, but not anymore. Found out about their discount change when my fridge died and I went to Lowes to purchase another. When I asked that the military discount be applied, the salesman said sorry, that Lowes had changed their policy on appliances. Yes, the discount still applies to many items, but you bet your bottom dollar, I will make sure prior to rolling up to check-out with a big ticket item.

Lowes Military Discount

From their PDF. The total agreement is in the link above. This is just a snippet, but you can read the PDF or check out their site.

"2. What Does the Military Discount Apply To?
The 10% Military Discount can be used everyday on most full-priced product purchases. Exclusions to the Military Discount Program include the following:

(i) It cannot be used on any sale item or with any other discount

(ii) It cannot be applied to major appliances (including related accessories and parts), commodities (such as but not limited to, electrical cable, electrical wire, dimensional lumber, plywood and OSB), gift cards, previous purchases, fees, installations and labor."

Home Depot is the same way…

 

[bdsnooks]

Home Depot is the same way…

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Somewhere we went from Shall not be infringed, to show me your papers.

 

[user 53891]

"The Basspro near me seems to be only interested in selling boats and clothing."

If that is what sells in that store, would you stock what does not sell?

To do so would be the Forrest Gump school of management.

When any company knows that they have a hostile government against a product, they aren't going to invest in it....would you?? Example is the oil and natural gas industry!

 

[wganz]

found the screenshot of the chat session with the BassPro corporate customer service guy

 

[Bullit]

That's fine, but I don't understand which 'woke' point you are standing firm on.
Are you blaming the counter person or the ATF?

It's not right for you to refer to the counter person as a POS just because they're stuck with having to follow their multiple boss's interpretation of ATF regulations.

Well, the counter person, according to what was related, was the person going ballistic, so yes, the counter person is the one I'd start with. The ATF has been wrong many times before as proven in court. They're wrong this time, and so is the salesman. I don't really care what the ATF videos you watched had to say, technically the sale had not officiated because money had not exchanged hands to the seller. That could have been the sons money to start with, brought from home or any other place. The father could have owed that money to the son. As long as 'the son' hands the money to the seller, technically 'he' is the one that paid for it. So, in final answer to your question, yes, the counter person. Time to stop giving passes for stupidity.

 

[user 53891]

What's your favorite BP lube???"

KY

 

[Bullit]

We have a Cabelas here in the Grand Rapid, Mi. Area. Since Bass Pro took over it has become a joke. The gun department that is. The Gun Library is nothing but a bunch of cheap pump shotgun.. they used to have racks of used long guns on the floor. All gone. I go in there once in awhile but they pretty much don’t have anything I want. I could say more but I won’t

The last time I was in Bass Pro in Nashville TN, there wasn't a single ML anywhere to be seen. They used to keep a row just for muzzys, but nary a one now. Not even empty gun racks. The racks were gone too. Very limited BP supplies. This was just in November.

 

[Okie Hog]

All the ammo that was bought up by the obummer administration was destroyed shortly after the got it.

Malarky.

 

[Rum River]

Well, the counter person, according to what was related, was the person going ballistic, so yes, the counter person is the one I'd start with. The ATF has been wrong many times before as proven in court. They're wrong this time, and so is the salesman. I don't really care what the ATF videos you watched had to say, technically the sale had not officiated because money had not exchanged hands to the seller. That could have been the sons money to start with, brought from home or any other place. The father could have owed that money to the son. As long as 'the son' hands the money to the seller, technically 'he' is the one that paid for it. So, in final answer to your question, yes, the counter person. Time to stop giving passes for stupidity.

Hmm, okay then.

The ATF is not going to change their approach on straw purchases just because you have "some pretty strong words" with the counter person at Cabela's that you refer to as a "woke POS".

Have a nice day.

 

[Bullit]

Hmm, okay then.

The ATF is not going to change their approach on straw purchases just because you have "some pretty strong words" with the counter person at Cabela's that you refer to as a "woke POS".

Have a nice day.

Well, you have your opinion and I have mine, and you know what they say about opinions. There's no sense in US arguing about it though.

 

[user 53891]

Malarky.

what??? you mean to tell me that Malarky got it all??? damn him!!!

 

[Wawyasto]

found the screenshot of the chat session with the BassPro corporate customer service guy

View attachment 192971

You know this wasn't a real person you were talking to, but an automated chat system, a.k.a. a bot?

Might try the 800 number, you _might_ still get a carbon based life form to talk to on the other end.

 

[Stantheman86]

Last 2 times i wandered into the "collection grotto" the rep there had little clue as to what they were selling., $800 91/30s and $3000 p38.s.

I saw the same thing at mine, I'm like no one is paying $800 for a 91/30