Huh. I guess they do a background check before interacting; but you'd think they'd at least acknowledge you. NJ won't show you guns in the display cases until you show a NJ purchaser or owner card; FOID. PA is still pretty cool for purchases; it's a big hunting state, too.
I would have argued this point, even in court. If you had handed the money to the clerk after your son filled out the paperwork, that would be what I consider a straw purchase. But you handed the money to your son and then he would have handed it to the clerk. Different. There's no law against giving someone money and once it's in their possession, it's theirs. What they choose to do with it after that point is their business. You could have owed that money to your son for all the clerk knew. I'm afraid I'd of had some pretty strong words for that woke POS.
I know, I know. However FFL's are scared to death of even the perception of a straw purchase, so I understand. Once the ATF has it in their mind an FFL is allowing straw purchases, even if they follow the law to the letter, they're under an ATF microscope permanently.
As it was related the cash was handed to the son at the time of purchase. The ATF will not consider that to be different. The ATF actually make a point of that distinction in a lovely training film we were forced to watch.
I stand firm on my point. It's time to stand up or lay down. I don't lay down for anyone. I've had enough of this woke crap.
That's fine, but I don't understand which 'woke' point you are standing firm on.
Home Depot is the same way…
When any company knows that they have a hostile government against a product, they aren't going to invest in it....would you?? Example is the oil and natural gas industry!
Well, the counter person, according to what was related, was the person going ballistic, so yes, the counter person is the one I'd start with. The ATF has been wrong many times before as proven in court. They're wrong this time, and so is the salesman. I don't really care what the ATF videos you watched had to say, technically the sale had not officiated because money had not exchanged hands to the seller. That could have been the sons money to start with, brought from home or any other place. The father could have owed that money to the son. As long as 'the son' hands the money to the seller, technically 'he' is the one that paid for it. So, in final answer to your question, yes, the counter person. Time to stop giving passes for stupidity.
KYWhat's your favorite BP lube???"
The last time I was in Bass Pro in Nashville TN, there wasn't a single ML anywhere to be seen. They used to keep a row just for muzzys, but nary a one now. Not even empty gun racks. The racks were gone too. Very limited BP supplies. This was just in November.
Hmm, okay then.
Well, you have your opinion and I have mine, and you know what they say about opinions. There's no sense in US arguing about it though.
You know this wasn't a real person you were talking to, but an automated chat system, a.k.a. a bot?
I saw the same thing at mine, I'm like no one is paying $800 for a 91/30
