Ok ....finally able to get back in shop for a bit . Ramrod pipe installation. Way I do it . I have a set measurement for my ramrod relief at the end of the gun , my sight location , and front lug . Behind the front lug goes the first ramrod pipe . How many pipes depends on the type of gun being g made and the barrel length . This I'd a long sucker and English trade gun so ....no entry pipe and three pipes total . So ...after first pipe just divide the space from the first pipe to the entry hole into equal spaces for the pipes to be evenly spaced ... Mark center first but then put pipes there and mark the front and back of pipe . By the way ... mark your pipes , front and their position , 1-3 in this case ....So ....first pipe ....put pipe at position , pencil mark front and rear , then line right right down the center between those two lines ....drill this line with series of 1/16" holes , connect these holes with broken piece of hack saw blade . Make wide enough where tab of R.R. pipe with go down into slot .clip off corners of RR pipe tabs . The front and rear line , chisel straight down on I side of their lines then relieve the Inside of tjese lines with small gouge . Ok ...inlet black on pipe , make sure pipe is pointing g right direction ....push pipe into slot , tab into slot , some times you have to widen or lengthen slot , put wood dowel.in pipe and tap down both ends of wood dowel .... Pull pipe out with dowel , start removing black . On these trade gun pipes its lines mostly from the ribs , use tiny gouge on these ... Repeat ... When pipe is down in there check on it , look at it and make sure it is level , if not , you need to get it level esp. if it'd close to bed . You keep doing this until , pipe is level , and the pipe is down , ....down is when the pipe inside is level with bottom of ramrod channel , slide dowel in and out each opening to make sure it dont catch ....