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Yes Sir, the two on the left are both Lyman Plains Pistols in 54 cal.
then the Pedersoli Charles Moore 45 cal. and finally the last is a
Pedersoli Kentucky Flint Lock 54 cal. Pistol.

Go Air Force HOOAH !!!
55 SRW SAC, 3902 Bomb Wing
 
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Hopefully soon I'll be able to get around a little better and try these guys out on the range as well.
 
I think I see Plain's Pistols....talk about "frighteningly" accurate! I plan to give mine a pre-hunting season work out soon. Don't think the percussion versions of the Charlie Moore are more accurate, just more easy to shoot accurately.

The set trigger, once I got use to it, helps me achieve a reasonable degree of accuracy. That's almost unheard of for me a flintlock pistols!
 
She's an Early Virginia 54 cal. Flintlock, purchased years ago back in Mass. from my friend
Sheldon Royal at "Hunter's Rendezvous". He's a mountain man I've always admired and emulated.
 
I think I see Plain's Pistols....talk about "frighteningly" accurate! I plan to give mine a pre-hunting season work out soon. Don't think the percussion versions of the Charlie Moore are more accurate, just more easy to shoot accurately.

Can you tell us what the weight of the trigger pull is on the Plain's pistols?
 
I don't have an accurate device to tell that exactly, but it takes a firm trigger pull to engage the hammer forward,
maybe once the pistols have been live fired at the range about 25 - 50 times it may improve.
My Pedersoli pistols, like three rifles have more sensitive triggers than the Lyman pistols.
Perhaps one day they'll make the Lyman trigger assembly adjustable.
All four of my pistols, and all three rifles have yet to be live fired at the range.
 
Maybe mine has been worked over by a previous owner, but it's pretty light and crisp.
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I'm wanting to get a Pedersoli Frontier flintlock rifle in the same caliber as the Charles Moore pistols.

On the other hand, I am also lusting after the percussion lock version of the Charles Moore pistols; two of them for another dueling set.

What should I do?
 
Quick question on the nipple for the CM percussion pistol.

I got one from DGW and awaiting one the Sgtprovo so graciously decided to sell me. With that said, I don't like having percussion pistols without spare nipples.

I cannot find any replacements for the CM pistol to purchase and have on hand. I managed to find some HotShot nipples for my Pedersoli Howdah pistol sometime ago but nothing for the CM pistol.

Any information or links would be greatly appreciated.
 
Quick question on the nipple for the CM percussion pistol.

I got one from DGW and awaiting one the Sgtprovo so graciously decided to sell me. With that said, I don't like having percussion pistols without spare nipples.

I cannot find any replacements for the CM pistol to purchase and have on hand. I managed to find some HotShot nipples for my Pedersoli Howdah pistol sometime ago but nothing for the CM pistol.

Any information or links would be greatly appreciated.

I answered my own question. I took the nipple to Lowes and threaded it through the gauge and it was 1/4-28. The entire length is .710.

I found some nipples that I took off of the Howdah pistol and they were exactly the same. Now I was hoping that a Hot-Shot nipple would work but it was way to short.

So I left the Hot Shot nipples on the Howdah and will use the OEM nipples for that pistol as spares. I ordered a couple of spare nipples from the Possible Shop.

The standard nipple 1/4X28 #45-470 should work.

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I think I see Plain's Pistols....talk about "frighteningly" accurate! I plan to give mine a pre-hunting season work out soon. Don't think the percussion versions of the Charlie Moore are more accurate, just more easy to shoot accurately.
Hi,
Previously, I posted how accurate my percussion Charles Moore was, I had both the flint model and the percussion.
At twenty five yards, they were both quite close, at fifty yards, the percussion won hands down.
The rifled bore on the percussion made the difference, I'm sure.
The flint model definitely had the visual appeal, without question.
It did take me a while to get use to the set trigger.
Several rounds hit dirt and sky before I was in shooting position. Fortunately I was at the range alone, to hide my embarrassment.
It is great to see how popular this post is.
For shooting the percussion, I had a .437" Lyman round ball mold, and it is perfect.
I shot that also in the flint. It loaded reasonably easy.
If you cant get balls or a mold, send me a PM , and I will cast some balls for you.
Have a great day!
Fred
 
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It did take me a while to get use to the set trigger.
Several rounds hit dirt and sky before I was in shooting position. Fortunately I was at the range alone, to hide my embarrassment.

I discovered a technique which helps me have better control over the set trigger. Notice where the finger is placed in the top photograph. There is nothing to stabilize the tip of the finger. It is hanging out in thin air.

This becomes a problem when trying to control the larger muscles in the hand and arm which support the pistol while, at the same time, control the smaller muscles which operate the finger to squeeze the trigger.

All of these factors are very well known to all of us.

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I got tired of putting rounds in the dirt and into the top of the backstops or target frames. While looking at the pistol one evening, I was trying to solve the problem of controlling the tip of my trigger finger without surprising myself with an early discharge of the pistol.

Keep in mind that the method that I am about to describe can be practiced without cocking the pistol, at least on the Charlie Moore. The bottom photograph illustrates my technique.

With the hammer down, push forward on the back of the trigger to set it. Without putting your finger on the trigger aim the pistol at an imaginary target. All the while that I am doing this, the tip of my finger is on the trigger guard or very close to it.

This is the important part. Make sure that the TOP side of your finger is up against the BOTTOM of the pistol in the region of the trigger. So while you are keeping the sights aligned with the target, you can DRAG the top of your finger against the bottom of the pistol while feeling for the trigger.

By now, you are getting the idea that by dragging the top of the finger along the bottom of the pistol you are prevented from over controlling the finger.

You should be able to feel the trigger without setting it off. Then when the sights are aligned perfectly you can touch the trigger off and know exactly when the pistol is going to discharge.

I practice this technique quite a bit and the hair trigger of the CM pistols don't pose a problem anymore. Then when I go to the range, I surprise everyone with how well a flintlock pistol shoots.

I taught this technique to a few friends who noticed the difference right away and have been able to fire the gun and hit their targets. Let me know how this works.

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I just want to say that it was a pleasure doing business with sgtprovo. I purchased my 2nd Charlie Moore percussion pistol from him.

Have not had a chance to shoot it yet but will give a full range report when I do. In the meantime...

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More pistol ****. I felt a little artistic and decided to make another photograph. If I do say so myself, this one is great wall paper for my computer screen.

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Great pics Rat, thanks for sharing. Can you tell about your long gun, I'll bet she's done some damage at the range.
She'll do damage anywhere, but she's put two deer in the freezer, both were interesting shots. One was trotting along a trail, at 110 yards, going from right to left, so I put the sights between two trees and when said deer appeared in the Zone I touched her off, deer didn't react much but that ball went right through, and it died about 20 yards from where shot, but I just couldn't see, too many trees. I pulled the trigger just before the deer trotted into the sights, but I guess it was moving fast enough that I needed a little more lead, hit it a little further back than ideal. About 12" further back, towards the hind end, as I would have wanted.

But here's some damage for ya, the other one was coming down a trail, same one I was on, but another was right behind, so I had to hold my fire as I didn't want to shoot two deer. Very close when I could shoot, deer coming straight at me. At the shot, deer stands up on it's hind legs, jumps straight up in the air, comes down stone cold dead. As I'm looking through the cloud of smoke in amazement, the other deer goes flying through the air, through the smoke, from my right, to my left, right in front of me, about three feet away. Like out of a surrealistic video or dream or something, looked like slow motion. !!! So she's done some damage. Unfortunately when I shot a cougar recently, I just happened to not have her with me. Been trying for Elk and/or a bear, but have not connected yet. Her name is "Brown Rosie, Rose of Alabama", and she says: "thanks for listening!" :)
 

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