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Hello all. I was trying to clean my enfield 3 bander after shooting and had just poured hot water down the barrel and got all that residue out. Than I got some cloth cleaning patches made from an old T Shirt. I neglected to wet the patch. And I also neglected to use the slit on the end of the ram rod to guide it up and down. I Rammed it down and realized I couldn't pull it out. I thought well ok ill just wait until the barrel cools off and the metal can retract. Sure enough 15 minutes later I tried again and got the ram rod out but the patch didn't go with it. I tried using a worm but It can't grip it good enough. I poured water down the nipple hole and tried to "flush" it out the other end but it didn't work, though water does go through it. And I don't think the worms teeth are sharp enough. What do you guys suggest?
 
I always try to have a forged worm just under the size of the bore. A good forged worm will grab everything down on the breach. Those little worms that look like a spring are not so good. If you need a picture of a forged one, just ask. I hope you get that patch out, I love those Enfield rifles!
 
I always try to have a forged worm just under the size of the bore. A good forged worm will grab everything down on the breach. Those little worms that look like a spring are not so good. If you need a picture of a forged one, just ask. I hope you get that patch out, I love those Enfield rifles!
Yeah could you DM me a picture of it? Thanks
 
Here is a little tool that I picked up somewhere. It has a forged screwdriver, hammer, vent pick and a worm. I had one forged for my 60cal flinter, but it is somewhere in my house that is eluding me. This one fits my 40cal flinter. It works really well.
 

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Also I love your videos sir.
What kind of brush? And do try to get it out when the patch Is wet or dry?
Here is the brush I use. It fits on the end of a rammer.
The patches are usually wet because they occasionally come off during cleaning.
If you can find a brass /wired brush, I'd say it would be better than this one.
And....thanks for watching the videos....


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For less than $5.00 & using tools you already have...Another idea is try :

 
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I've made a patch puller by twisting a length of metal coat hanger wire around a 5/16" drill shank and threading it on a 3/8" wood ramrod. Sharpen the tip the puller digs into the cloth and it will pull out the patch as the coils clamp down on the rod. I've used this as a tow worm, patch puller and patch holer.
 
Yeah , put a worn on the R.R. and pull here out , or try the brush ... Should do it . Back in the first year I had to get wire at the hardware , bend a very short 90 on the end , straighten the wire then push it to the breech , twisting it round and pull it out ....best of luck
 
In my possible I carry a piece of wire about 3 ft long.
I keep it rolled up.
I have used this to straighten out put a about a quarter inch 90° bend in the end of it
you can stick that down in the bottom of the barrel and turn it round and round and it will catch that patch and you can pull it out. hopefully.
I don't know how hard it's jammed down in there
 
Old post but if it were me, I would have first try one of those Co2 outfits, or remove the nipple and shoot some compressed air from an air compressor through the system. If that didn't work, I'd pour a little powder down into the flash hole, install the nipple and try shooting it out. Might take a few times but at the least it should blow the patch apart enough to get it loose or out.
 
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