Confederate revolver, true or fake

[Sam squanch]

I’ve read that in the old days of collecting, guys would prank each other by stamping cs or csa on an old colt or Whitney or something. These guns may be mistaken for the real thing with years of patina on them.

 

[Smokerr]

One of the famous gun fakes was a Luger (or a group of them). Story was it was spare parts put together at the end of WWII.

Some of the best Luger experts in the world spent tens of thousands on examples and then someone sleuthed out it was all fake.

 

[vintovka]

Have seen plenty of supposed CS arms over the last 5 decades. Only 2 were proven real and only the Richmond Musketoon stood out as the real deal.

 

[ColonialRifleSmith]

The CSA w/periods. NAH.

 

[Muley Gil]

I once saw a .43 Spanish Remington rolling block marked "C.S.A."

 

[vintovka]

How about a sawed of 1900's Hardware Store brand, double 16 gauge SG with both CSA and WF!!! Hardest thing during a appraisal to break the news to new owner they have been had. (Why its best to paid in advance for consults.)

 

[William Sublette]

You mean like a Ted Williams, sears csa shotgun?

 

[Secesh]

One of the most faked group of firearms and that is why anyone contemplating the purchase of such should tread lightly and employ a good expert.

I will concede that it is plausible CS and CSA were both used to mark Confederate arms. I do know however, that CS was used exclusively for marking the Spiller & Burr revolver, as set forth by the “System of Inspection for Revolving Pistols manufactured for the War Dept.” on the examples that were actually stamped. Some examples were not marked at all.

 

[William Sublette]

Is there a directory of experts?


Where does one find an expert?

 

[Secesh]

Oh, I don’t know, maybe post yourself at the front door of your nearest Walmart and question the patrons entering/exiting about their knowledge of high end antique military arms?

 

[vintovka]

I would not ask the guys in dresses,

 

[Relic shooter]

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Be very cautious, there are many more good looking fakes than originals.
Start by getting someone very knowledgeable in your area to see if the rifling is correct & if the screw threads are metric or U.S.

 

[IT47]

An honest gunsmith you use for your own firearms could be a start. Have him check the threads for metric or US. Also, have him search for any Italian proof marks. Have him check the patina. New or 100 year old natural. He'll know an EXPERT who can correctly determine REAL or FAKE.

 

[shootemup58]

I'm knew here so I don't know if I can say what web site it is on but the description clearly states it is a fake confederate clone of unknown manufacture. If it is okay for me to post the web site I will.

 

[Nobody85]

My new model army has kept its screws intact and I’d say the integrity of them is better than decent. I’m definitely not saying that is an original confederate revolver. I am saying not to base your opinion on the condition of it, rather be specific when looking over the manufacturer’s details.

 

[vintovka]

Prolly gonna catch heck for bringing this up. Have a well used original 1858 few like to hold for long. Used to take it to shows to see folks reaction to it. Most almost invariably said it felt weird and called it a "blood gun" others said confederate capture without suggestion. I actually dislike it myself and keep it in an out building . Go figure.

 

[CaptainKirk]

I call fake from what I can see in the pix. The screw heads, the wear...all looks overdone. And the worst is the misaligned C.S.A. with periods.

 

[Eutycus]

It just seems that frauders and fakers are not treated harsh enough. What is the penalty?

 

[CaptainKirk]

It just seems that frauders and fakers are not treated harsh enough. What is the penalty?

Rubber hoses...

 

[vintovka]

It just seems that frauders and fakers are not treated harsh enough. What is the penalty?

Same as fake Media, nothing but rewards