conical shooters

[coloradoclyde]

Cute!... :thumbsup:

 

[nkbj]

Thanks. It's name is Ren.

 

[coloradoclyde]

How long is that barrel?

 

[Walks with fire]

I do like and use PRB but for some odd reason I got this desire to throw some heavy lead. It didn't take long to lose that desire. Oh well; it was still interesting.

It still amazes me how accurate, simple and effective patched round balls are. Trying not to screw up a good thing.

 

[Idaho Ron]

Some of us shoot game that is bigger than a rabbit. Most white tails I see shot back east are smaller then some dogs. If I were shooting the deer you guys shoot I guess I would use something that packs no whomp. :rotf:

I can also see where you guys that are recoil shy need a load that has much less power and recoil. :idunno:

I will continue to shoot a load that packs a whomp and won't come off the charge. Paper Patch does that. :blah:

 

[coloradoclyde]

Oh, we got big rabbits and deer in my woods.....and some days I wish I was shooting conicals at our cat sized squirrels.... :haha:

True.....I don't love the recoil like I use to....
And I'm glad we have a paper patcher like you among us..... :thumbsup: :hatsoff: :haha:

 

[DeeDubya]

Is the rifled musket traditional? The minie is a conical but no paper, heavy bullet, very fast to load and can be very accurate.

I watched "The Patriot" again the other night. Made me think of it...

 

[nkbj]

How long is that barrel?

It's a full 20 1/2" deep.
Kinda like shooting a large pistol with a shoulder stock.

 

[fleener]

Put a wad over the top of the bullet to keep it
seated

Fleener

 

[Vaino]

Tried that and the accuracy really suffered....Fred

 

[coloradoclyde]

Is the rifled musket traditional?

yes, in the period in which it was made and used.... :grin:

 

[DeeDubya]

After fully seating the bullet, a couple taps with the rod will cause the skirt to flare as the powder pushes up into it. Locks it in place.

 

[Rifleman1776]

After fully seating the bullet, a couple taps with the rod will cause the skirt to flare as the powder pushes up into it. Locks it in place.

Methinks we need to be a bit skeeptikal about that bit of 'advice'. :hmm:

 

[DeeDubya]

It's not my advice. It's straight out of the original manual that came with my Enfield Musketoon. Been loading it like that since 1973 when I bought it new.

 

[BrownBear]

I always wondered how original users got around the prospect of shifty minies. Makes perfect sense to me, though I've never seen original instructions. Thanks for the addition to my thinking gland!

 

[Rifleman1776]

It's not my advice. It's straight out of the original manual that came with my Enfield Musketoon. Been loading it like that since 1973 when I bought it new.

DD, OK, I'll forgive ye. But what comes out of manufacturers manuals is often not gospel either. BP is a powder. Without tests, maybe like a glass, 'barrel', we don't know exactly what happens when you hard seat a minie.

 

[M. De Land]

I once ringed a .50 cal TC barrel using a maxi ball that slid off the charge while hunting with it.

 

[Walks with fire]

Your lucky it just put a ring in the barrel and not in your head. I messed around with them enough to not accept the possibilities of injuries to myself or others. If a bore size is just right for the conical it would be fine. I don't know how much a barrel size would change in hot or cold temperatures either. I am sure paper patch is the only way to do it safely.

I never had a paper patched conical move but unless you had them sized they wouldn't be consistent. To much work when a patched ball works and is easy.

 

[DeeDubya]

I hear you. Common sense would tell you to NOT pound black powder. But a 500gr bullet NOT properly seated on the charge could be bad too. When pushing a minie down a fouled barrel there is considerable resistance just like with a PRB, so one wouldn't worry too much about it moving once seated. However, with a clean barrel, a lubed minie will slide right down. Actually the weight of the steel ramrod will push it down. To make sure it stays there, a couple light taps (remember a fairly heavy steel rod) will insure that it's on the charge and also flare the skirt. This doesn't damage the bullet. A little practice and you can feel that it is indeed on the charge. With a clean barrel and minie seated in this manner I have purposely (gun upside down) bumped the barrel on a piece of wood (same as testing if a trigger is safe on a hunting rifle).
Anyway this method does not damage the bullet since the whole purpose of a minie is to have the skirt expand and engrave the rifling, unlike a PRB where the patch is engraving the rifling.
Maybe going on too much about what you already know but it might be of some interest for those who are new to BP.

 

[DeeDubya]

I got way off course here from what the OP was asking. My apologies.