slumlord44
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Recently bought a .54 Mountain Rifle. It does not have a patch box. It may have been a kit gun but I thought they were standard. Any ideas?
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CVA Mountain Rifle Patchbox
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I seem to remember someone saying the larger calibers didn't have a patch box. My 50 does. I don't know why though.
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My Invest Arms (Cabela's) 54 has a patch box.
Alden said:
Weren't/aren't all CVAs Spanish made?
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I've heard that the first ones were made here with Douglas barrels. If you want a PB they come up on E-%@#$% sometimes....Silver. Tom
I has around when the first CVA products came on market. They were all made in Spain. The mountain rifle came a bit later and, to my recollection, those were made in Spain also. It is the more recent models I'm not sure about.
The parts were still made in Spain but the ones with barrels made in the US were marked made in USA.
Mooman76 said:
I think of a barrel as a part but for some time they where assembled here with US-made barrels and "made in the USA." When this changed the patchbox was also removed. So...
...while I cannot definitively say that a Mountain gun with a patchbox wasn't made in Spain I believe I can say that any CVA Mountain gun without a patchbox was.
The 1979 CVA Catalog mentions no patchbox on the Big Bore (54/58 cal.) Mt. Rifles.
Yeah, it says positively these percussion .54 and .58 Big Bore Mountain Rifles have no patchbox -- I guess, as in the picture, because they are "hard working, unadorned" guns and patchboxes are for handsome, lazy, rifles...
...not made in Spain.
...not made in Spain.
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Thank you all. They are available for around $17. Installing one is something I can do but I'm not sure if I want to mess with it or not. May leave it original. Now I know that's how they came originally.
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My CVA 50 cal was a kit gun. Has the patch box.
All I ever kept in it was the jag and worm.
I rarely shot PRB almost always conicals
Back in the mountainman era, I don't believe they carried ready made patches. Maybe a few did. And they would fit in there. But most carried a small chunk or so of patch material, cut it as they loaded, thus the patch knife normally hung around the neck.
The box was primarily for their ready made lube, as I understand it.
And there is nothing on my barrel to indicate where it was made. Just says Connecticut Valley Arms Black powder only 50 caliber and a serial number.
All I ever kept in it was the jag and worm.
I rarely shot PRB almost always conicals
Back in the mountainman era, I don't believe they carried ready made patches. Maybe a few did. And they would fit in there. But most carried a small chunk or so of patch material, cut it as they loaded, thus the patch knife normally hung around the neck.
The box was primarily for their ready made lube, as I understand it.
And there is nothing on my barrel to indicate where it was made. Just says Connecticut Valley Arms Black powder only 50 caliber and a serial number.
The guns look good with a patch box but also do without. Most people don't even use them so I wouldn't bother with one myself. Shoot and enjoy.
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I think that's what I will probably do. Got too many projects now and once done it is impossible to undo without replacing the stock. I have guns with patch boxes but have never used them either.
The .45 and .50 caliber MRs have a patch box. The Big Bore .54 and .58 MRs do not.
The former have 15/16" wide barrels while the latter are 1". All have 1:66 twist save for the .58 caliber which is 1:72.
All the Big Bores were made in Spain and were introduced in the 1979 catalog but all were gone by 1985 though they made appearances as special editions in the 1990 and 1999 catalogs I have.
The .45s and .50s came out in 1976 with a 4 screw patch box. Though the ads and 1976 catalog shows six screws in the patch box. 1978 was the last year for the pointed 4 screw patch box. Presumably by 1979 they were all being made in Spain now with the rounded 2 screw patch box that was later used on the CVA Hawken from 1981 onward.
The former have 15/16" wide barrels while the latter are 1". All have 1:66 twist save for the .58 caliber which is 1:72.
All the Big Bores were made in Spain and were introduced in the 1979 catalog but all were gone by 1985 though they made appearances as special editions in the 1990 and 1999 catalogs I have.
The .45s and .50s came out in 1976 with a 4 screw patch box. Though the ads and 1976 catalog shows six screws in the patch box. 1978 was the last year for the pointed 4 screw patch box. Presumably by 1979 they were all being made in Spain now with the rounded 2 screw patch box that was later used on the CVA Hawken from 1981 onward.
