Dangerous BP Novice Video

[Loyalist Dave]

I was looking around at YouTube and saw this Video on the Brown Bess. Now I'm sure this guy is a nice fellow and means well with his videos, but he's a perfect example of what happens when a cartridge shooter kinda, sorta, learns how to shoot a muzzleloader.

While the video is rife with historic inaccuracies... the REAL problem is at the 10:15 mark where he has placed an OPEN can of BP with just a nozzle on the shooting bench, then proceeds to shoot standing with the bench (and the one pound can of powder) in front of his muzzle. :nono: He does this THREE TIMES. :shocked2:

Folks this is plain, dangerous ignorance at its finest (imho) :shake: :youcrazy:

LD

 

[biliff]

Yeah, he made a few "safety" pronouncements and disclaimers but missed the obvious.

He's also never been to a trade gun shoot.

Pretty much a gee whiz video for the non BP masses.

The comments section has a few more DS remarks.

But at least it was a BP video on a predominately suppository shooter website. Just have to show them the right way when the newbie shows up at the range.

 

[coloradoclyde]

Yep! never shoot from the loading bench or vice-versa

 

[Len Graves]

That feller called that Bess. A Rifle at least three times before I shut him off.

 

[JD Peppergrinder]

I maybe watched that video 4 times and never caught the open can of powder but I didn't overlook the statement about it being an "assault rifle". I wish that people in media wouldn't dislabel and start lies about muzzleloading and black powder shooting but if everybody thought it is great most of us wouldn't do it.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Watch him load the musket, then set the can down. It's just a spout on the lid of the can. He places it on the bench. At the 10:15 mark he goes to shoot... the bench is between him and the target, with the can of powder there too. He does this two more time in the video.

LD

 

[MSK]

Actually, Hickok45 is noted shooter with all sorts of firearms. I enjoy his videos. Dave is right though; all it takes is one spark to rid one of a fine reputation...and more.

 

[JD Peppergrinder]

I also believe he is a member of the ML forum.

 

[Jim Vatt]

Dave,
That open can's the one that really stood out to me. I guess he doesn't understand the sparks that fly out the end of the barrel all that well. Not certain why he insisted on having the hammer at full cock each time either. His comments about "flinch locks" and a ten second ignition time almost had me stopping it too, but I suffered thru it!

 

[kaintuck]

Some people film themselves to get 15 min of glory..... :rotf: :idunno:

Marc n tomtom

 

[Spikebuck]

If one is going to make a video, it seems incumbent on them to know all the safety rules and some facts instead of "me thinks."

He made it seem as though flintlocks are all slow-firing, inaccurate firearms only good for some casual plinking. Anyone in his intended audience would hardly be compelled to take it up nor would they have any of the myths about these fine arms dispelled as they should have been and would have been by someone with actual knowledge. :shake:

 

[davescott]

his flinch is so bad at the 14:20 mark, his face is two inches off the stock before the barrel ignites lol.

 

[davescott]

Freeze it at the five second mark for a kickarse fireball. WHOOOOOSH

 

[rustyh]

Slow it down to 0.25 and watch it explode. If that had been a can of black everyone within 50 ft would have been injured.

 

[ToothPick]

Some people film themselves to get 15 min of glory..... :rotf: :idunno:

Marc n tomtom

Not defending his ML safety, but I had to smile at the above statement. With over 1.3 million subscribers to his channel, he has had his "glory" a little longer then 15 minutes.

 

[Artificer]

He is using what is called the "Brown Bess Carbine" and that is an old friend of mine I shot so much in the 70's.

Yes, I could not believe he stepped back behind an open can of black powder and fired three rounds. Good Call, Dave.

However, the other GLARING mistake he made was priming with the Cock at Full Cock each time! Talk about an accident waiting to happen!!

Finally, his poor attempt at calling it an "Assault Rifle" to make a joke hurts everyone in shooting and not just Traditional Muzzleloaders.

Having said that, the Flintlock Musket WAS INDEED the "Assault Weapon" of its day. It was a Military Weapon more durable than a hunting weapon, of larger caliber and therefore more capable of inflicting greater harm (when it did not outright kill) than hunting guns (though at less range than a rifle to be sure), reloaded and fired much faster than hunting guns, and of course it carried a Bayonet.

The POINT that should be made was that EVERY MALE between the Ages of 16 to 60 before the American Revolution and as of the 2nd Militia Act of 1792 ages 18 to 45 (later extended to 18 to 54 and more recently 60) was REQUIRED to have such an Assault Weapon, if they did not own a rifle. So by actual words and deeds, the Founders meant for every Adult Male (who was not a criminal or mentally infirm) to have THE MOST UP TO DATE Assault Weapon of the Age to protect their nation and their Commonwealths/States and homes.

Gus

 

[bpd303]

I guess no one caught him blowing down the barrel. :nono:

 

[Darto]

This is always been my fav Bess video, although he needs more practice and so rushed it a bit....
I guess because he dressed the part so well... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJMbxZ1k9NQ

 

[Darto]

And this guy I learned more from, and reminded me why a rifle is not a good 18th century battle gun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9hrB-eaajI