Early Jaeger Rifle ca.1680-1690

[hawkeye1755]

This original flintlock was made in Frankfurt, Germany, circa: 1680-1690. This period in history is the transitional time between the Doglock ignition and the more dependable Flintlock ignition system. As evidenced by the accompanying photographs, the magnificently carved stock, the beautifully engraved flint lock and brass work represent the finest example of the gun makers art in Europe during that era in history. The original brass barrel with the engraved sights adds both to the rarity and fine investment value of this wonderful antique firearm. The brass barrel is 25" long, with the overall length being 38".

Price:$16,000.00
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[Rebel]

So, are you buying it UT? Beautiful gun, but a bit to much for me.

 

[mckutzy]

wow, now thats nice, i wonder if that is a rifled piece. well it would be easier to rifle than that made of steel that is. probably made my hand with no much in the way of powered machinery.

 

[Zonie]

You guys don't think that all of these incredible guns belong to UT do you?
How else could he get all of these nice closeup pictures? They don't usually put all of these views on the web. :grin:

What do you folks think that hole in the trigger guard is for?
My guess is it was for the lanyard of a hammer stall (or frizzen cover).

zonie

 

[mckutzy]

i think it was for sling mounts, the front one is also missing but the hole for the D ring is there.

 

[rich pierce]

sling swivel. looking at the front pin holding the stock to the barrel, just in front of front thimble, notice it's thick- to support a sling swivel.

 

[hawkeye1755]

So, are you buying it UT? Beautiful gun, but a bit to much for me.

For $16,000 i would buy me a Mark Silver Virginia rifle and let some guys from the Forum build it for me.With the rest i would take my two daughters and made a long vacation in the states.Than finally i can meet some of you.Go hunting and in the evening we can drink some beer.And on the way home i take my new Virginia rifle with me. :grin:
Dreams, sometimes they come true.
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[romeoh]

The hole is definetly for sling swivels.

Take a look at this picture. I took it in a museum close to my home. The gun in the middle has also a trigger-guard with that hole. On the gun on the right you can see a triggerguard where the sling swivel is still present.

Jaegers

 

[bob1961]

was it ever fired :shocked2: :v ...........bob

 

[hawkeye1755]

was it ever fired :shocked2: :v ...........bob

:hmm: , Once upon a time,in a country far,far away...
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[mckutzy]

ya thats what i thought, there is several marks like that on the bess's i work with when the slings D rings make a mark and a simular triggerguard with hole.

 

[Dave1]

That has to be one of the most beautiful rifles i've ever seen. :grin:.If i had the money.

 

[Zonie]

You guys are probably right about the hole being for a sling, but I would have thought that it would be more centered to the material with more "meat" around it to take the load.
zonie

 

[nchawkeye]

Beautiful gun...Thanks for posting...I would have actually thought the price would have been more than $16,000...What is always interesting to me on some of these Jaegers...Notice the touch hole is lined, this maker was already using flip up rear sights and set triggers and the flintlock looks to be very well made (although the flint is in upside down) :grin:
For this time period the maker was pretty innovative...

 

[Mike Brooks]

That gun is more likely 1700 - 1720. Chris Immel may be able to narrow it down a bit more. It has many Brandenburg (Berlin) characteristics, I don't know how far that is from frankfort.

 

[Zonie]

I was at a small local gunshow 3 months ago and a guy had a similar brass barreled Jaeger there.
He wanted $14,000 for it. Of course, that was a little more pocket money than I had at the time so I passed on buying it.
I did spend over 1/2 hour examining it though.
It was like eye candy! So much to see! Everywhere I looked, something new and different would pop out even though I had looked at that area before. The carving! The chiseling! The Craftsmanship! Just unbelievable!

Because the local gun shows do not allow cameras, I had not brought mine and I thought about driving home to get it. I didn't though because I felt that asking him to drag his treasure out into the parking lot would be too much to ask.
Now, I wish I had.

At the time, I was carrying my Pecatonica River Transitional Rifle which, up until I saw the Jaeger I was rather proud of.
I actually felt like hiding my rifle before anyone else noticed how crappy it looked compared with that Jaeger.

zonie

 

[hawkeye1755]

That gun is more likely 1700 - 1720. Chris Immel may be able to narrow it down a bit more. It has many Brandenburg (Berlin) characteristics, I don't know how far that is from frankfort.

Ca. 50 miles.
We have two Frankfurt's in Germany.
Frankfurt-Oder that is near Berlin.So you are right with the Brandenburg characteristics.

The other is Frankfurt am Main.
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[Twisted_1in66]

wow, now thats nice, i wonder if that is a rifled piece. well it would be easier to rifle than that made of steel that is. probably made my hand with no much in the way of powered machinery.

Jaeger rifles are by definition....rifled. :v

 

[Stophel]

Now, THAT'S a cheekpiece!!!

Very Prussian looking. I would actually say it was from about 1720-1740. Definitely not 1690's.

Frankly, $16,000 sounds a bit steep. Of course, even if it were $5000, it would be too much for me! :shocked2:

The antique gun dealers will buy guns in Germany and then bring them here and sell them for AT LEAST twice what they paid for them...a pretty good racket.

 

[Blizzard of '93]

good fotos of a very interesting piece as usual, UT. thanks again. :thumbsup: