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At the company I work for, we use dense felt for air baffling. It is about 1/2 inch thick. Would that work for a "under ball" wad? Or would the
"over thickness" be too much? Just curious. I have to wait until my wallet is thicker to get my M.L. and experiment. Curious on your thoughts. :applause:
 
What caliber gun are you wanting to use the felt for? In a small diameter barrel, I would think a 1/2 " thick felt wad would be more than necessary . Most are 1/8" A 1/4" wad would provide an excellent seal in most rifles. However, in shotgun of 20 gauge and larger, that 1/2 wad might just be the right thing to use. :hmm: :thumbsup:
 
The rifle I will be buying is a CVA Kentucky 50cal. Someday I would like to try a smooth barrel, but i will start with this for now. Was curious about the thicker felt wad,well I am cheap! :haha: And it takes no more than a permission slip to get it from work.

A newbie question, is there a disadvantage to having a felt wad that is too soft??
I should edit my first post, it is more dense felt than a sorel pack boot liner, less dense than the felt used on the old white military "Bunny Boots".
 
There are two uses for any felt wad: One is to deliver lube to the barrel to keep fouling soft. Tow, is to seal gases behind the wad so they don't cut the patch and ball in front of the wad. Sealing gases also helps insure complete burning of the powder, smaller variations in velocity from shot to shot, and a smaller amount of residue left in the barrel.

If you use a very soft felt wad, or a very thin felt wad, it can allow gas to blow by it, as the gas would be pushing against a soft object( the felt wad) which is turn is NOT supported across the full width of the bore by what is in front of it. If you are shooting a flat based conical bullet, instead of a PRB, that makes a difference, and a thin felt wad, or a soft felt wad works just fine under the base of the bullet, to both lube the barrel, and protect the base of the bullet.

With a PRB, because of the curve of the surface of the ball, you probably want to use a thicker wad so that the wad itself supports its " walls" and keeps the gase sealed behind it. I have not tested the thin vs. thick wad idea over a chronograph, but in principle, a thick wad should seal better.

If you look at the OP wads sold by Circle Fly, they are made of hard paper cardboard. They do seal, even at 1/8 of an inch. I use them in my .50. I have used the T/C " wonderwads" which are felt, and about 1/8" thick in a BP revolver, and they worked well to lube the barrel, but did not seal the barrel from gas blow-by at all. If I used two of them instead of just one, I would get better sealage. I didn't try three, but I suspect using three of them would have sealed the gases very well, and reduced group sizes.

I don't see why the same thing would not happen with felt wads in a rifle.
 
it would be the devil to try to punch wads from it. you likely would have to use some sort of 'hole saw'. or a piece of tubing correct I.D. that you've filed 'teeth' on the edge of and chuck in a drill press.
 
I tinkered around with various felt thicknesses and hardnesses when I found durafelt.com. I found that a thick, hard wad worked better overall. 1/2 inch isn't too thick for any of the calibers I tried it in, which was .45 to .54. In fact, I prefered a 5/8 wad that was medium/hard. Hard felt gets really hard to load as the wad gets thicker.

The best way to find out how it works for your gun is to give it a try. It's not going to hurt anything, and it might reward your efforts with tighter groups.
 
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I have a access to a hand punch that would work, or I could punch them one size bigger.
Glad I found this website, loads of knowledge to be had!!! :hatsoff: to all!!!
not to stray off here, but would a thicker soft pad as this, lubed up and used over a PRB be good?
I thought i read this in another post, was used to reduce fouling,,,but i could be wrong.....
 
It would be too thick for a C&B pistol, but it would be great for a smoothbore gun !! I'm curious to know if the felt already comes pre-cut to fit the baffles, and what condition is the felt in when it is changed out? Is it still usable for muzzleloading? If so, are you allowed to take the used felt home and send it to list members to experiment with?
Ohio Rusty
 
Well 99% of what we use is sent out, but never comes back, but what does is garbage. But i can grab some, alittle at a time with a permission slip. What is your address? It comes in a strip approx 1 1/4" wide 1/2 thick ,and whatever you want for length.....
 
I sent you a PM. Get all you can get, with permission of course !! (If you can get waste cans full of the stuff, get it.) Send along what ever length piece you feel like sending. I'd like to experiment with enough of the felt to try it with different size wad punches.
Thanx !!
Ohio Rusty
 
you might try putting a dab of lube atop the felt wad after you push it into the bore (atop the powder charge). then your PRB/slug. that's what I do with mine.
 
Well I have sent out some felt samples for testing. So we should be hearing back soon! If all works out well, I can make arrangements for more of yall to try it! :thumbsup:
 
Brian, got my sample yesterday; unfortunately the weather is VERY uncooperative now. I think I may see if I can cut the thickness in half using a new utility knife blade. It might be a lot easier to punch wads that way. I am sending a check for postage today. Thanks. Emery
 
You might want to check it with a match to see if it melts.

Wool felt is what you're looking for. I've never used felt wads in a rifle. I have tried wasp nest but found that it made no difference.
 
I have access to 1/8” thick felt wiper pad material is there a test to determine content 100% wool or a blend with synthetic material ??? I would use it as a over powder wad for 50 cal. prb.
 
Burn a piece of the test sample. If you see stringy residue, you probably have synthetics mixed in with the wool. The synthetics will not burn easily, and will leave behind thin, but tough fibers, that do not easily crumble, as the ashes from pure wool will.
 
Paul,glad I saw this post about testing,tried some of my felt I got as insulation strip and it melts as a synthetic would tried a tc bore button and it only singed and actually had a hard time trying to light it.I was on the dura felt web site and they have some specifically for muzzleloading ,has anyone tried theirs or if it even is non synthetic..Ray
 
Just re looked at the web sight and it is 100% wool and the name is actually Duro felt,might have to try some..Ray
 
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