Guys I shot my gun Thursday for the first time. It was awsome, but after being showed how my friends clean thiers, this seems a waste of money. Until now T/C was all I knew. Remove the barrel, wash wash wash... I was very worried about not removeing the barrel for cleaning. After shooting I was instructed to wet some patches with a soap/water mix and starting pumping patches. You know the drill, pump up and down a few, reverse the patch, pump it again. 12 patches and my rifle's bore was clean. The patches used were not so wet to cause a lot of water to exit the vent hole. Then with the vent liner pointed in a downward slope, to the ground, poured a shot or so of water/soap in the barrel. Jammed another patch down to force the water out the vent. It came out in a fine mist, not even getting my stock wet! 2 to 3 times there. Dry patch, some good oil, done. Now I was skeptical. So today I tore the whole gun down, barrel off, lock off, and I was amazed at just how clean it was. I see no need for a vent flush thing at all. When looking down the barrel with my bore scope, everything looked spotless. :youcrazy:
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Anybody try this item at Harbor Freight?
$10 and has attachments for sink faucet.
Goes in through the muzzle.
They mistakenly call it a "Drain Cleaner"
Any damn fool can see it's a "Muzzleloader Bore Cleaner"
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=97199
$10 and has attachments for sink faucet.
Goes in through the muzzle.
They mistakenly call it a "Drain Cleaner"
Any damn fool can see it's a "Muzzleloader Bore Cleaner"
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=97199
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Stophel
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I use one of the clamp on ones I got from Wayne Dunlap. Works quite well, doesn't leak. It is quite handy for cleaning at the shop when I've just been out shooting (not in full 18th c. regalia).
None of my guns have touch hole liners.
None of my guns have touch hole liners.
I clean mine like Stumpy does....pull the lock and place the vent down. By the time you pull the vent liner out, screw in the cleaning tube, put the end in a bucket of water, etc, I can have the rifle nearly cleaned. And no unnecessary wear to the liner or barrel threads. Like I said before, I have one of those clamp-on thingies but it never seemed to work good for me.
"I don't mean to be a stick in the mud, but this seems like a solution to a non-existant problem"
The urge to use modern methods is always present in any aspect of the sport, even when it can be proved to be of no real advantage, to each their own.
The urge to use modern methods is always present in any aspect of the sport, even when it can be proved to be of no real advantage, to each their own.
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sniper68 said::hmm: All of mine, to line up proper needs to be on the wood, including my Roger Sell rifle.
:hmm: Both my flintlocks are Roger Sells rifles and the clamp catches the edge of the barrel flat just above the wood opposite side from touchhole (not much barrel flat exposed here). I carefully hand-tighten, holding grommet over touchhole until she's tight. I just periodically hand-tighten to make sure it doesn't come loose.
Now on the .36, the EZ-Flush Kit clamp just barely tightens down far enough to work 'cause the barrel is pretty narrow on that little rifle...but it works. Works fine on the GM .54 C-weight swamped barrel.
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Bob Krohn said:Anybody try this item at Harbor Freight?
$10 and has attachments for sink faucet.
Goes in through the muzzle.
They mistakenly call it a "Drain Cleaner"
Any damn fool can see it's a "Muzzleloader Bore Cleaner"
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=97199
And I was trying to cut down on going to Harbor Freight. Seems like I can't get back out the door for under $50.
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I'd have to agree to disagree with you Mark. There are many differing views and methods out there. On my Pedersoli with a patented breech, I've found that simply plugging the touch hole doesn't work as well for me as pulling the touch hole liner. I like to use the flush tube to really loosen things up first but then pull the liner and clean the breach area good. With choke tube lube on the on the touch hole liner threads, removing it is usually not a problem although I do keep some spares around just in case I do bugger up the screwdriver slot on one that is in a little more tightly than normal.
My issue could be unique though because when I picked up the gun at a pawnshop, the breach area was almost completely closed up with some of the foulest manure I've ever encountered. That in itself though could indicate that the previous owner never pulled the touch hole liner!
You know what ? It simply amazes me on how a major bunch of people (not pointing at you Mark) on this board can go on & on & on for Days about something........ post for days on days the same thing, & still say basically nothing.......
This whole thread was a total waste of time reading & the end result is the same as the last time this was brought up.........
Everyone cleans different.
Some like removable vents, some don't.
Some take them out some don't.
And if you don't agree with a individual, well, obviously you are Wrong ! ha ha ha ! :rotf: :rotf:
Dang, I am sure glad I learned all of this again for the 449th time........ :grin: Maybe it will sink in this time.. :hmm:
This whole thread was a total waste of time reading & the end result is the same as the last time this was brought up.........
Everyone cleans different.
Some like removable vents, some don't.
Some take them out some don't.
And if you don't agree with a individual, well, obviously you are Wrong ! ha ha ha ! :rotf: :rotf:
Dang, I am sure glad I learned all of this again for the 449th time........ :grin: Maybe it will sink in this time.. :hmm:
I don't understand how removing a liner will harm anything. As long as it doesn't get cross-threaded, it can't hurt it. Geez, when you remove the lock screws, does it wear out the threaded holes in the lock-plate?
I've spent more than 40 years in a machine shop and never wore out a threaded hole yet. That's what threads are for.Easy in and out.
I've spent more than 40 years in a machine shop and never wore out a threaded hole yet. That's what threads are for.Easy in and out.
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R.M. said:
How often have you removed a hard vent liner from a barrel made of softer steel? This is usually the case with muzzleloaders.
