Goex is a go!

[Brazos John]

At any rate, I'd guess that we have probably managed to convince him to stay shy of these forum conversations.

Folks get excited with their opinions and passions, and try to convince others to see it the same way.

 

[CyrusP]

This is wonderful news! Thank you Karl and Estes!

 

[4575wcf]

I have been in the shop every weekday since Feb 1 feverishly filing out shotgun parts, finding tools, sorting, and trying to make some sense out of my mess out there. Missed the news about the buyout; this seems the perfect solution to our black powder woes. Estes rockets seems to be able to skirt the negative press with their products, so perhaps supply will be plentiful and uninterrupted. God bless them in their endeavors.

 

[Bdamdifino]

Thank you again for your wise business decision I've already emailed you at your office site. I did have a wild thought though if you wanted to "corner" the BP market how about getting into percussion caps???

That would be awesome. I'm currently making my own caps because I can't find #11's and there are no clubs near me. Great idea!

 

[FishDFly]

I do hope Goex supports some sort of youth muzzleloading projects in the future but to be perfectly honest I wouldn’t fault them at all if they bypass you and work with someone else, so far you’ve bad mouthed the company name on multiple forums and you’ve basically come off as a demanding, pompous ass to put it politely, hopefully they can see around you and see the good they can accomplish, just my 2c.

Very well worded and appropriate., times 10.

If Swiss is supporting you in such fine fashion, why are you bashing Goex and begging for powder? There must be more to the story that you are not telling. Is Swiss cutting you off?

Bashing a company on a public forum is not the way to gain support for the youth. Essentially you are hold Goex hostage to gain support for your local youth. Let their parents support their children if shooting is so important..
This reminds me of free breakfast at school.

If I was Goex, I would tell you go suck a rope and keep begging Swiss. Donating a lot of powder to you is not going to further their bottom line as they begin a new venture.

I wish Goex success in the future.

Please take your constant whining to some other place.

 

[PaShooter]

Mr Kulling-

I used to shoot Old Eynsford exclusively in competition. That is, until I became a youth shooting sports instructor and found that Goex didn't support black powder youth shooting sports. In our first year of working with kids, we had over 375 kids go through and I personally worked with 79 on safety and marksmanship. Goex was MIA as a sponsor or supporter and refused to acknowledge emails or phone calls. Schuetzen was not MIA, in fact, they provided both powder and caps. From that time forward, I've shot only Swiss and Schuetzen in both competition and instruction.

In the future, I would like to see Estes provide support to black powder youth shooting sports with Goex powder. We're currently gearing back up for next summer and certifying more instructors. It would be great to have Estes support in this youth education effort.

There may be others on this and other forums who blindly worship at the altar of Goex, but unless and until Goex supports black powder youth shooting directly, they will not be in my powder magazine, nor on my instruction range, nor anywhere in my educational materials for young shooters. I do not hide the fact that Goex powder is available, nor do I hide the fact that Goex doesn't provide any material support either.

I would welcome the opportunity to open a dialogue with Estes to correct this issue.

Dave
NRA Muzzleloading Instructor
NMLRA member and Charter Club President
North South Skirmish Association Competitor
NRA member
NMLRA member

This is how you greet the NEW OWNERS of Goex? Wow your people skills are sorely lacking. I hope you exercise better judgement in your role as an instructor.

 

[jarentz]

This is good to hear! More powder and balls,because you just never no.

 

[Mrfeeney]

Mr Kulling-

I used to shoot Old Eynsford exclusively in competition. That is, until I became a youth shooting sports instructor and found that Goex didn't support black powder youth shooting sports. In our first year of working with kids, we had over 375 kids go through and I personally worked with 79 on safety and marksmanship. Goex was MIA as a sponsor or supporter and refused to acknowledge emails or phone calls. Schuetzen was not MIA, in fact, they provided both powder and caps. From that time forward, I've shot only Swiss and Schuetzen in both competition and instruction.

In the future, I would like to see Estes provide support to black powder youth shooting sports with Goex powder. We're currently gearing back up for next summer and certifying more instructors. It would be great to have Estes support in this youth education effort.

There may be others on this and other forums who blindly worship at the altar of Goex, but unless and until Goex supports black powder youth shooting directly, they will not be in my powder magazine, nor on my instruction range, nor anywhere in my educational materials for young shooters. I do not hide the fact that Goex powder is available, nor do I hide the fact that Goex doesn't provide any material support either.

I would welcome the opportunity to open a dialogue with Estes to correct this issue.

Dave
NRA Muzzleloading Instructor
NMLRA member and Charter Club President
North South Skirmish Association Competitor
NRA member
NMLRA member

Worthy cause for sure....poorly worded....just my opinion.

 

[dave951]

This is how you greet the NEW OWNERS of Goex? Wow your people skills are sorely lacking. I hope you exercise better judgement in your role as an instructor.

Is this a personal attack or addressing the facts?

 

[Omahkapi'si]

I think we’re all just excited to think about shelves full of Goex again…

 

[Brokennock]

Is this a personal attack or addressing the facts?

 

[dave951]

Truth and facts bother you that much?

 

[Eterry]

Gentlemen, lets all be glad an American Company has acquired the GOEX plant and plans to continue selling powder to the public.
There is no place for personal attacks or hostility here.

Mr. Kulling, welcome to the forum, we'd be thrilled to have more updates as your work progresses.

 

[4575wcf]

Powder is powder gents. My favorite brand of black powder, primers, percussion caps, bullets etc. are the ones that I can get my hands on. I grew up in a very well stocked America, and shortages of anything really get my undies in a bunch. COVID. tornadoes, snow storms, fire and all that, we just need to knuckle down, get producing and going forward IMO.

 

[Brokennock]

Truth and facts bother you that much?

The fact that you are a grown "man" that is supposed to be leading and influencing our youth and are still whining and crying about this is what bothers me.
The current owners of Goex, their board of directors, and their management,
have nothing to do with the former company denying your request.
If you approached then in the manner you have displayed yourself here, it is no wonder they denied you.

 

[FishDFly]

I sure hope that Mr. Kulling does not think dave1951 is representative of the members here.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

I think Mr. Kulling sees a lot of passionate black powder shooters here!

 

[bigstick6017555]

If these youth organizations need money for what ever, what is stopping them from organizing fund raisers like we did in Boy Scouts years ago for gear and helping some kids with camp money. Everybody got lazy I guess. Most companies will help but we got the most out of fund raisers.

 

[CaptainKirk]

Mr. Kulling, the members of the black powder community are thrilled to see you pick up the torch and carry on! Personally, I am more than blown away to see you register to this forum and actually reply here to the thousands of fans of your product. Black powder shooting may have not been on your radar before, but I believe I speak for all of us when I say "Welcome to the muzzleloader community!"

 

[Zulch]

Mr. Kulling, the members of the black powder community are thrilled to see you pick up the torch and carry on! Personally, I am more than blown away to see you register to this forum and actually reply here to the thousands of fans of your product. Black powder shooting may have not been on your radar before, but I believe I speak for all of us when I say "Welcome to the muzzleloader community!"

I agree 100% CaptainKirk!! well said. I for one, am very excited. Made in America to boot! Even Better.