Got my first gun building project!

[4deer]

After looking around for a while to find my first gun project I finally found one. I got a really cheap unworked on CVA pre-carved frontier stock with barrel, under rib, and end cap. The rest of the parts are missing from the kit.

I think I will mix and match the pieces missing and not worry about using CVA pieces unless necessary.

My father has a CVA frontier so I know the buttplate it just a bent piece of brass, but I want something nicer with a comb. The dimensions of the butt-stock are 4 5/8" long, 1 9/16" wide, and 5/8" of inward curve.

Track of the wolf's golden age buttplates seem to come pretty close to these dimensions. Any suggestions on a particular buttplate? I am guessing CVA did not design the frontier to be historically correct so I will not worry on this gun about being PC just about making it look nice.

I want to try making a simple patch box myself out of sheet brass. Do you think there is enough room in the stock for a patch box, since there is no cheek piece?

 

[J.D.]

The production companies make their own parts, so I suspect that you will have a real hard time fining parts that will come close to fitting that stock.

IMHO, the best you probably can do is order Track's catalog and use their full size illustrations to find parts that will fit. I suspect that you will have to do a LOT of fitting, just to mount those parts.

God bless

 

[4deer]

:hmm: I never really thought about ordering a catalog from them before, because it costs so much. However, they would have a lot more useful stuff in there. Thanks for the idea J.D.

 

[ebiggs1]

Check eBay.

 

[Zonie]

Track of the Wolf's catalog costs $10. That price includes postage anywhere in the U.S.

Follow this link http://www.trackofthewolf.com/cate...&subid=38&styleid=135&partnum=catalog-17&as=1

They have tons of hardware for building muzzleloaders and for making powder horns, knives, possible bags, cloths, 'hawks etc and for the most part their prices are very fair.

Another neat thing about their catalog is that many of the photos are exact size.
That means you can compare shapes and measure the picture with a ruler and know just what your getting.

 

[MSW]

I agree. The TotW catalogue is tremendously useful and worth the extra bucks (really not all that much if you consider what you're getting)

 

[bob243]

Another vote for the catalog being worth every penny. The drawings are exact size, I use it often to figure out if something will fit..

:thumbsup:

 

[widget350]

Last time I placed an order to TOTW I ordered a few things plus their catalog. The catalog was the most useful of all the stuff I ordered.

 

[bob243]

Order the catalog seperate, If you order with other stuff, you end up paying an extra $2.00 shipping. :wink:

 

[Birddog6]

I want to try making a simple patch box myself out of sheet brass. Do you think there is enough room in the stock for a patch box, since there is no cheek piece?

:idunno: I don't see where it would matter, since the cheekpiece is on the opposite side of the patchbox.

 

[Birddog6]

If you keep watching eBay, you might find all the parts you need on there, as I have seen allot of CVA parts on there before. The CVA parts are all that is gonna fit correctly & not allot of mod to make them work.

 

[4deer]

I want to try making a simple patch box myself out of sheet brass. Do you think there is enough room in the stock for a patch box, since there is no cheek piece?

:idunno: I don't see where it would matter, since the cheekpiece is on the opposite side of the patchbox.

I never owned a gun before that had a patch box, so I did not know if the patch box cavity extends into the cheekpiece any. :redface: How deep is a typical patch box cavity while we are on the subject?


I just got a tang for it off ebay today in the mail and made brass inlays to go around the wedge pin and inleted them the other day. One thing I am having problems is how should I cut the slot in the inlay for the wedge so that it is square and straight? I already tried using the dremal tool for one of them and I think I might be re-making that inlay. :rotf:

Thanks for the comments guys.

 

[Birddog6]

General rule of patchbox depth ? Don't know of any. :shake: But most of mine are 5/8 to 3/4" deep. I draw the patchbox out on Paper, lay it on the stock & insure I like it & it fits. Then I figure out the latching & how I will make that part, then I make the patchbox & inlet it. Now I draw out the hole I want, size & shape, make sure I have a lip of wood around it for the patchbox lid to rest on. Then I take a forstner bit of appropriate size & drill 2-3-4 holes side end to end down the stock, then cut in between with a very sharp chisel to remove the webs between them. Then make the latching mechanism & inlet it. You should KNOW how you are going to latch it before ya start, as you don't want to get to that point & not be able to latch it.

The lil plate around the wedgepin is called a are called Escutcheon. You can't cut them with a dremel. You drill a tiny hole in it, then you cut it out with a jewelers saw, then file the square slot square with tiny files. Or you can buy them already cut out. The square hole is in the plate BEFORE you inlet it into the stock.
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