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Got My Smoothie Today...Disappointment
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Mr. Okwaho,
Thank you for sharing your opinion. All things are relative and it helps to keep things in a proper perspective. Of course, this may vary from person to person.
Best wishes
Thank you for sharing your opinion. All things are relative and it helps to keep things in a proper perspective. Of course, this may vary from person to person.
Best wishes
I found this one:
-> My Tip Curtis Tulle Kit <-
Two days older & slightly different title (makin 'ol Stumpy work fer it).
-> My Tip Curtis Tulle Kit <-
Two days older & slightly different title (makin 'ol Stumpy work fer it).
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If this one on those Emperor
Ah ha! Ye means 'ol White Buffler - le Boeuf Savague Blanc!
Bad news is that the images have been removed or moved from Hunt101 so all you get is place-holders. Can't help you there.
Found it (click here)
Bad news is that the images have been removed or moved from Hunt101 so all you get is place-holders. Can't help you there.
Found it (click here)
My friend purchased a Barn Gun from ERA and it was not what he wanted. The lock was put in incorrectly. Looking from the side it tilted down toward the trigger guard. The fit of wood to metal was not good either. He contacted Larry and eventually got his money back. Larry did offer to redo the gun. My friend did not want to wait another year for that. I have a Clubb Butt fowler that I ordered in November that should be here next month. I ordered it in the white. I am crossing my fingers that it is what I expect. I will post some pics and my opinion of it on the site. I do know that Larry went from making a few guns a year to making a whole bunch. There may be some growing pains and things that need to be worked out.
I bought an "in the white" from Jack Gardner of TVM and paid 700 for a plain southern style.
The one I received was 100% better then this one and was delivered in a couple of weeks. It was fitted so tightly together and the inletting was so well done. I didn't want to take it apart, for fear of messing it up.
I would complain about that barrel and insist on a new one and I would also want screws, the rest of it looks like it is salvagable, but the workmanship is shoody and looks amuterish. and I know amuterish because I am one.
I don't know this builder and there are plently of people on this forum that speak highly of him, so I would call him up and disscuss my problems with the rifle and see what he says.
stuff happens, I remember a recent post where someone bought a kit from Chambers and they gave him the wrong lock with it.
Of course the error was corrected right away.
The one I received was 100% better then this one and was delivered in a couple of weeks. It was fitted so tightly together and the inletting was so well done. I didn't want to take it apart, for fear of messing it up.
I would complain about that barrel and insist on a new one and I would also want screws, the rest of it looks like it is salvagable, but the workmanship is shoody and looks amuterish. and I know amuterish because I am one.
I don't know this builder and there are plently of people on this forum that speak highly of him, so I would call him up and disscuss my problems with the rifle and see what he says.
stuff happens, I remember a recent post where someone bought a kit from Chambers and they gave him the wrong lock with it.
Of course the error was corrected right away.
quinnconner
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I would send that gun back for a refund or I would sell it as soon as possible.That gun would give me "bad vibes"everytime I ever handled it or looked at it.I would get my money back and buy a smoothbore from Jackie Brown or Tip Curtis.I sure wouldnt work on it ,cause to me, once something is jinxed, I wouldnt want it.I had a beautiful longbow like that one time.I never could learn to like ,so I sold it on ebay.It brought good money and the new owner was very happy.I was happy to see it go.Check the listings on some of the forums for custom smoothbores...$600 to maybe $800 should fix you right up.Best wishes and good luck to you.
J.J.
J.J.
Yea, I guess you're right. I got a $550 dollar gun, Unfortunately I paid $665 for it with the upgrades I ordered. And I guess I forgot to ask Larry about having to hone the rust and pitting inside of the barrel, must be something I overlooked in the fine print on his web site. The Phillips screws I can overlook as not having any on hand. The copper wire barrel pins I can overlook as being out of steel pins (the trigger guard and trigger were steel). The poor fit on the parts I can deal with (I've screwed up fit before, so I know how to fix that). I even waited patiently an extra 5 months beyond the estimated delivery date. But rust and pitting on the inside of the barrel is asking a bit much. I have tried to contact him, I know he's busy and doesn't always hear his phone. Not that he would probably want to hear from me any how. I'm sure he's aware of all this by now and hasn't tried to contact me as far as I know of, I am hard to get ahold of at work also. I ordered one in the white because with work, time is a luxury that I don't get much of. I'll fix it and by the time I'm done, you won't be able to see any of these scars. Just going to take longer than I planned.
Enough said, Let's get onto more important things like planning for Rondy on the Ridge.
Rick
Enough said, Let's get onto more important things like planning for Rondy on the Ridge.
Rick
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Too late, he already worked on it. If he had any intention of sending it back it should have been the next day, before he messed with it. I'm afaid he's stuck now. :cry:
pennsyltucky
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and how much longer would u have to wait for him to fix it if u did send it back. its nothing too major and im sure he has paid for his mistake in lost business already.....
Hey DeadDawg Rick, thanks for the post, and the photos. All in all, I think you are taking this quite well, probably because you can make that gun into something you are happy with.
In your position, I would have been at a total loss. I don't have the skills or equipment required to "fix" a gun in that condition and would have been sorely disappointed had I been in your shoes. I guess I don't know what guns go for, but at the price mentioned and after that long a wait, I would have expected to get something that came a little closer to what right looks like.
Newbie talking here, but one of the themes that seems to resonate across this forum is that "production" guns, such as TC, Lyman, Pedresoli, etc, are okay as starter guns, but once you are ready to move up, you should be looking to a good builder to get a custom, semi-custom, or at least a "non-production" gun.... and maybe someday build your own. No one has ever said so in so many words, but the mood seems to be that going with a non-production gun means getting a better built gun in the process. The trick, then, comes in finding that "good builder."
Anybody can put together a glossy web site with stunning photos, and it can be done overnight. So unless I can see the gun, and touch it and smell it, all I really have to go by is the builder's reputation ...something he earns with quality work and good business manners over a period of time. It is only from men such as yourself (and women! never mean to exclude the women!) sharing buying experiences - whether positive or negative - that these reputations get built.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I hope you end up with a gun you can be happy with. I'm not now in the market for a gun (very happy with the one I picked up second hand from a fine gentleman on this forum), but you have certainly helped me start my list of people NOT to do business with.
