GPH Boat ore or shooting stick?

[rbfree]

Im not going to hold anything back, "This thing sucks"!! That said Ive tried several loads with bufflo bullet co. 338 ball-ets.they dont shoot out of that rifle for manure. I just bought the hornady 425 grain connicals and some 425 grain Maxi hunters hopefully they group better than 20 inches a 100 yards. The sights on that rifle suck. I just ordered new ones from Lyman. IMHO I should have bought another Cabelas rifle. much better all around IMHO!!

 

[Kentuckywindage]

i have both a cabelas hawken and a GPR flintlock and i love the gpr. The rear adjustable sight sucked so i used the other supplied non adjustable and love it with the thick front sight.

I would try a powerbelt over 80 grains powder. I have to use a projectile weighing atleast 170 grains so i shoot a 225 grainer powerbelt out of my .45 over 80 grains pyro p.

You could always have lyman send you a slow twist barrel.


Question, are the wedge pins on your rifle the same length? I have one that is really shorter than the other.

 

[Rebel]

The Cabelas is made by the same company(Investarms). The Lyman Great Plains Rifle(GPR) is a great shooting rifle. The problem may be that yours is a Great Plains Hunter(GPH). They have a fast twist barrel and are designed for Sabots and long conicals. The Ball-etts were designed for slow twist barrels like the GPR. Yours may do better with the longer conicals you now have.

 

[Brik847]

What caliber and what powder are you shooting?

 

[rbfree]

Question, are the wedge pins on your rifle the same length? I have one that is really shorter than the other.

Yes, Its my understanding that they only go in one way. I had a heck of a time with mine. I couldnt get my rifle to go together. I took it into The gun shop and He fixed it.

 

[Halftail]

I hear they make a nice Lamp post or a fence stake....Maybe a Drain Pipe but not so much using them for a Boat Oar. :blah:

 

[rbfree]

I hear they make a nice Lamp post or a fence stake....Maybe a Drain Pipe but not so much using them for a Boat Oar. :blah:

:rotf: :rotf: :surrender: :rotf: :rotf:

 

[ndbilly]

I have the Trade Rifle in .50 and the GPR in .54. Love the Trade Rifle. As accurate as I am and had a wondeerful experience with it on a deer hunt. PRB and 80 gr 2F. Light and short by comparison to the GPR. IMO, the sights on the Trade Rifle, my used example anyway, are easier for my old eyes to use than the ones on the GPR.

GPR is heavy and not as acurate, not yet. Still working on it. But you know, a rifle either "works" for you or it doesn't. I'm with you in the skeptics corner on the GPR.

 

[playfarmers]

I have the Trade rifle in .54 and didn't like the sights too. I ordered the Lyman hunting sights with the white front bead and folding rear, the same sights they put on the Deerstalker. I filed the front sight a bit to make it a bit smaller, and am very happy with it now. I had done the same thing with my old Deerstalker, found the sights great for hunting in low light.

 

[rbfree]

I have the Trade rifle in .54 and didn't like the sights too. I ordered the Lyman hunting sights with the white front bead and folding rear, the same sights they put on the Deerstalker. I filed the front sight a bit to make it a bit smaller, and am very happy with it now. I had done the same thing with my old Deerstalker, found the sights great for hunting in low light.

I have them on Order. Hope to get them next week sometime. I think that will help a lot.

 

[Halftail]

Them sights came on my Deerstalker when I got it 5 years ago.Good sights in low light situations.

 

[hthomso]

The Lyman manual for the GPR/GPH states "The rear wedge is slightly longer than the front wedge and is installed closest to the lock. Both wedges are installed right to left. This is true for both right and left hand models." The front and rear wedges are also listed as separate items in the parts diagram.

 

[Hunter66]

I have GPRs in both fast and slow twist. Both shoot very well for me, three inches or better at 100yds. I didn't have a single bullet in the fast twist barrel that did not give good accuracy. I do have the lyman replacement sights which are easy to shoot. I had problems with the lock(flint) but have cured that and I would not trade them. I have shot many and been with many guys shooting them and never had a problem. When you say that you had trouble getting the gun together that makes me wonder. What did the guy at the shop do? I know the guy at the local ML supply shop here recommends them first and formost when guys come in looking for guns and I don't think he would do that if they where going to be a problem. He wants guys in the sport not turned off of it.

 

[jtmattison]

You must be the one in a million.

My GPH is a tack driver with any conical over 300 grains and any sabot bullet.

Also, I've never had trouble with a Lyman rifle fitting the parts or barrel and I have at least one of everything they make including two GPR's and two extra barrels.

HD

 

[Runner]

If you check posts over the last year, problems are being reported with these guns that were unheard of before that time. Don't know if it was one time period or if cost cutting at the factory has started to effect the quality.

 

[Napper]

I could not get my GPH to shoot worth a darn till I used a over powder wad not it shoots 3 shots tuching at 50 yards with 80 grains of fffg and the opw I only wish that I could use more powder as I feel that 80 grains of 3f is a little short on power for elk and when I am hunting deer and elk are on at the same time so you can take eather if its a 3 point or better elk. tom

 

[BrownBear]

Second dibs on the overpower wad. I use lubed felt, and it really tightens things up.

 

[paulvallandigham]

Tom: I can't imagine 80 grains of FFFg powder being short on power in either a .50 or .54 caliber rifle. Compare to the .50-70 cartridge, which killed everything on the continent at one time or another, and was the favored caliber for Buffalo Bill when he was shooting buffalo for the Railroads. 80 grains in a .50 cal. with PRB gives you 1729 FPS MV; 80 grains in a .54 gives you 1569 fps MV shooting a 230 grain PRB. What more could you want?

 

[Rat Trapper]

I have to agree 80 grains is lighter than I would want to shoot at elk. If I was still doing guiding for elk, I'd recommend you shoot a conical as well. Elk that do not drop where hit, have a real bad habit of going places you and your guide would rather not go! Now getting a dead elk out of those places is even worse. Oh and just for the record, moose that do not drop where hit, often find water. Dead moose in water is not fun either.

 

[zepman]

Dead moose in water is not fun either.

This just sounds like a VERY bad event :hmm: I have spent as many as 8 hours getting a downed deer out but it sounds like a picnic compared to swimming with a dead Moose :thumbsup: