gun safes and cap and ball stories...

[Gtrubicon]

I am on a roll so lets go… ever watch Blue Bloods? If you REALLY watch that show you will soon realize it’s about the cops protecting their own brothers in blue over protecting the public. Hell even the PC Frank says always that his job is to protect his 34k officers.

In my opinion a dog helps immensely. This is my Cane Corso, his name is Enzo. He is a love bug, all 140lbs. Highly protective and very smart. He’s as fast and nimble as a cat. He’s also proved himself here on our 20 acres against bears, mountain lions and trespassers. I’ve had Rottweillers, pit bulls, American Bulldogs and Great Pyrenees. The Pyrenees was a close second. If someone shows up in announced, they don’t even think about getting out of the vehicl. Our camera system has proven this.

 

[Codger Craig Wilcox]

In my opinion a dog helps immensely. This is my Cane Corso, his name is Enzo. He is a love bug, all 140lbs. Highly protective and very smart. He’s as fast and nimble as a cat. He’s also proved himself here on our 20 acres against bears, mountain lions and trespassers. I’ve had Rottweillers, pit bulls, American Bulldogs and Great Pyrenees. The Pyrenees was a close second. If someone shows up in announced, they don’t even think about getting out of the vehicl. Our camera system has proven this.
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GT, my current Service Dog is an aged Yellow Lab mixed. Loveable and eager to assist me (favorite place is Walmart, but don't say that word out loud!), but she is well past "best by date", being arthritic, mostly deaf.
Been looking and looking for a replacement to train to allow her to retire. but having a problem finding a pup (8-16 months old, approx.)

Would Cane Corsos be suitable as a 24=hour assistant? Easily trained, or no? Sunny Girl picks up things I drop, helps balance me against falls, etc.

 

[smokeum54]

Sorry for your loss and the violation of your home. Unfortunately the real crime is that cops don't care one bit about things like this.

 

[Sam squanch]

Please be very aware. If they tried to get in the safe, they must assume lots of high dollar stuff in there. They may come back to make you open it. I have several de activated modern “ junk” guns lying around- can’t fix them to fire- so the burglars will take them and GO! My friend lost several high dollar irreplaceable family heirloom firearms in a break in. Plain evidence as to who did it. Cops did NOTHING.

 

[Gtrubicon]

GT, my current Service Dog is an aged Yellow Lab mixed. Loveable and eager to assist me (favorite place is Walmart, but don't say that word out loud!), but she is well past "best by date", being arthritic, mostly deaf.
Been looking and looking for a replacement to train to allow her to retire. but having a problem finding a pup (8-16 months old, approx.)

Would Cane Corsos be suitable as a 24=hour assistant? Easily trained, or no? Sunny Girl picks up things I drop, helps balance me against falls, etc.

In my opinion yes. He’s the most focused dog we have ever had. He is very strong willed, thinks for himself but has and is responding to training well. Enzo is about 18 months old. He has very high energy but isn’t destructive. Hasn’t as much as chewed a sock. The Corso as a breed needs to be highly socialized so Wal Mart, Home Depot kinda trips are great. Ya gotta have control of a 140lb machine in any circumstance. As far as being a 24 hour assistant I’d also say yes. His focus for our family is incredible. He wants to be right next to one of us if not touching us at all times. At night he sleeps at the door going out to the attached garage, it is the one we use most frequently. But every hour or so he makes a patrol through every room in the house to check on us then goes back to the door to rest. My only concern for your situation would be if the dog was to knock you over. He’s so big that when he leans on you for love it could push you over. I’m 47 and in constructio, so I’m strong and agile still. But sometimes Enzo catches me off guard and I’ll have to stumble a bit to regain my footing. I’ve been around other Corso’ that are more aware of that than him.

 

[CaptainVane]

some. not mine. whatever it is that you use for defense the cops are going to take it away from you....

Hell ya. 1 of 3 scenarios AFTER they confiscate your gun.
1. Cop now has a really nice gun for his personal use. Where you think cops get those untraceable ankle guns? The local gun shop?
2. Cops sells it on the street to his CI yo boy for $500. Google Baltimore Gun Trace Task Force.
3. Cops enters it into 'evidence' for court at which point it disappears as lost in the evidence room and 10 years from now, they knock on your door wanting to know why your gun was used in a murder. Lets go down to the station and sort this out sir. Better get a good lawyer.

#3 happened my good friend. He was in lockup for quite a while until a good COSTLY lawyer got him out of that dilemna.

 

[Smokerr]

Getting robbed is a violation and there is not getting around that.

One bit of advice, secure the safe to the floor and walls. It actualy service multiple purposes. While focus on the safe where all the good stuff is, they are not ripping up things elsewhere or looking.

One collector made an interesting comment, his guns were so odd to modern eye, no one would take them. I would guess they are after handguns, AR types, jewelry, cash etc. My old clunker guns are kept elsewhere, I don't have room for them but the key stuff is in the safe.

On a side note, I don't see BP serving as a viable SD purpose. That is what a modern pistol be it a revolver or a semi auto you shoot enough to know how to use. Revolvers are simpler.

And do not keep them in the drawer next to the bed or under your pillow unless you put it elsewhere when not at home. Its the first place they look (I am surprised they did not in your case, the safe seems to have been the attractor and well done)

 

[bud in pa]

I have 2 dogs of 100 lbs. each. I am retired and my wife works from home. Out the back of my house there are 5,600 acres of woods. We have 500 & 600 pound black bears, packs of coyotes and other scavengers. Loads of laurel swamps and deep creeks. Every body here is used to hearing gun shots day & night. What did Mr.T used to say, pity the fool. Having grown up in the city I would never call the cops!

 

[Codger Craig Wilcox]

In my opinion yes. He’s the most focused dog we have ever had. He is very strong willed, thinks for himself but has and is responding to training well. Enzo is about 18 months old. He has very high energy but isn’t destructive. Hasn’t as much as chewed a sock. The Corso as a breed needs to be highly socialized so Wal Mart, Home Depot kinda trips are great. Ya gotta have control of a 140lb machine in any circumstance. As far as being a 24 hour assistant I’d also say yes. His focus for our family is incredible. He wants to be right next to one of us if not touching us at all times. At night he sleeps at the door going out to the attached garage, it is the one we use most frequently. But every hour or so he makes a patrol through every room in the house to check on us then goes back to the door to rest. My only concern for your situation would be if the dog was to knock you over. He’s so big that when he leans on you for love it could push you over. I’m 47 and in constructio, so I’m strong and agile still. But sometimes Enzo catches me off guard and I’ll have to stumble a bit to regain my footing. I’ve been around other Corso’ that are more aware of that than him.

Thanks so much for the fast and factual response. I tried Standard Poodles, and a Siberian Husky. Both proved to enjoy tearing things apart.
Had some friends in OK with Greater Pyrenees - wonderful dogs at looking after the family goat, sheep, and cattle herds - but very nocturnal. They would stay with their respective herds, but if one dog heard a ruckus, they would hasten to aid the one calling for help.
I'm more of a day-time guy!
The VA assisted in helping me with my Sunny Girl, but that was quite a few years, and several states, ago. Our County VA Rep is not much help at this time. Hate to chalk it up to personal animosity, but...
Sunny is very tolerant of my cats - they often use her as a portable thermal blanket!

 

[Sam squanch]

Hell ya. 1 of 3 scenarios AFTER they confiscate your gun.
1. Cop now has a really nice gun for his personal use. Where you think cops get those untraceable ankle guns? The local gun shop?
2. Cops sells it on the street to his CI yo boy for $500. Google Baltimore Gun Trace Task Force.
3. Cops enters it into 'evidence' for court at which point it disappears as lost in the evidence room and 10 years from now, they knock on your door wanting to know why your gun was used in a murder. Lets go down to the station and sort this out sir. Better get a good lawyer.

#3 happened my good friend. He was in lockup for quite a while until a good COSTLY lawyer got him out of that dilemna.

You must live in a state where handgun registration is mandatory.

 

[Sam squanch]

My neighbor years back had a break in. The sheriff told him to look at the pawn shops in certain areas. He went to one 30 miles away- 3 of his guns were there! He made a fuss, the owner called the city cops. The cops told him to LEAVE now or get arrested. He got a highway patrolman to go back with him a day later. Those guns were gone! Cops there denied even seeing my neighbor in there the last day…..hmmmm.

 

[oldwood]

Nick.......I will pray you are able to find out who did this travisty to your property , and you. 'Bout 40 yrs. ago after having three runins with criminals , went to the county sheriff's office , and had a meeting with him , telling what was going on. He immediately wrote me a legal carry permit. His last words to me were , "just don't shoot any one , that's a legal mess. " From that day forward , I carried my .45 , 1911 w/me. Strangely , nothing has happened since. You sound like you live in a place where every body knows everybody. The bad guys can't hide for long. Make it a point to talk to neighbors , etc. I live in an area where cell svc. is very limited , and folks watch out for each other. Heaven help anyone breaking into my house , while somone is here. I'm old , and fear little , and still a good enough x competition shooter. Like my dear old Dad always told me , keep shootin' until they aren't moving. He was refering to deer....OF Course! Anyone so stupid as to break into someones property , shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Best to ya nick. Oh yes , my old mentor G. Gorden Liddy usta say on his radio show , "NO WITNESSES !"

 

[Salty Cracker]

My neighbor years back had a break in. The sheriff told him to look at the pawn shops in certain areas. He went to one 30 miles away- 3 of his guns were there! He made a fuss, the owner called the city cops. The cops told him to LEAVE now or get arrested. He got a highway patrolman to go back with him a day later. Those guns were gone! Cops there denied even seeing my neighbor in there the last day…..hmmmm.

Cuz all they are just road pirates

 

[Old-Duckman]

Probably fingerprints all over the place. Hope they catch them.

They (cops, law enforcement), don't care about such things. I doubt that it will go any farther than a written report to be filed away and forgotten.

 

[Sam squanch]

They care if one of their own is affected, a prominent community member is affected, or the victim is a hot chick.

 

[deerstalkert]

part of the problem as far as LEO not giving a flip about property crimes is that of insurance companies. mandatory coverage has taken the sting out of losses and the patrol cop is just a visual deterrent, while detectives ARE overwhelmed with crimes against persons. Assaults, Rape, and Murder get the attention.

 

[dracer]

I have a German Shepherd ,she will let no one in her house that she does not know

 

[vintovka]

part of the problem as far as LEO not giving a flip about property crimes is that of insurance companies. mandatory coverage has taken the sting out of losses and the patrol cop is just a visual deterrent, while detectives ARE overwhelmed with crimes against persons. Assaults, Rape, and Murder get the attention.

Back when i was working on the federal superfund financial assurance regs i unexpectedly found out how the insurance world really works and who really controls the cost of everything. Our friends in Zurich are really unhappy and you may be seeing changes already as their bottom line is in danger. As always law and order takes the backseat to profits. Luckily the dollars won't allow the insanity to go on much longer.

 

[Gtrubicon]

Our insurance industry needs as much an overhaul more than anything else in my opinion. It screws everyone no matter what your political affiliation is.

 

[vintovka]

Our insurance industry needs as much an overhaul more than anything else in my opinion. It screws everyone no matter what your political affiliation is.

May also impact major bond ratings for countries and states.. Should CA drop from AA- to A it will be interesting. They are already trying to ransack the retirement programs to pay for things they already cannot afford. Think you are unaffected? think again.