Hoppe's labeling change ???

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I haven't used Hoppes 9 Plus in a long time, poor decision on my part, as it is truly excellent patch lube. I had a old batch of it in my stash, the kind with the white squeeze bottle, that I started using again. I noticed this older container says "9 Plus" on it. While the current tall bottle container does not say this on the label. Is this just a change in the labeling ? Is this newer stuff the same as the older ?

Thanks in advance,
Jim
 
I had the same problem. Kept looking for the 'Plus' on the label. I was afraid it had been discontinued. I finally noticed it said black powder further down on the label. It's been my favorite patch lube for years and I keep at least several bottles on hand, just in case, because it isn't sold everywhere.

Jeff
 
I had the same problem. Kept looking for the 'Plus' on the label. I was afraid it had been discontinued. I finally noticed it said black powder further down on the label. It's been my favorite patch lube for years and I keep at least several bottles on hand, just in case, because it isn't sold everywhere.

Jeff
 
The four bottles(tall, skinny type) I bought all had PLUS in big black letters right under the number 9 on the label. Are you sure you didn't buy Hoppe's #9?

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EC121 - I just ordered 4 bottles from Midway. The picture on their website did not have "Plus" on the label but did say Black Powder etc... Hence my question.
 
Hoppe's website also shows the bottle without the PLUS. They may have had a label malfunction or customer complaints. Midway just used Hoppe's picture for their ad. Maybe I got some old stock, and the new bottles have no PLUS.

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I had a old batch of it in my stash, the kind with the white squeeze bottle
Missed the ‘white squeeze bottle’ period. My stash is in the brown glasss bottles. Years ago a LGS was going out of business. I picked a bottle of Hoppe’s 9 Plus and the soon to be retired owner tells me he can’t give the stuff away. I agree to that price to help him out. He says he can’t do that, but I can have it all for $1 a bottle if I want. Leave with a case of 32 oz bottles, plus a number of 16 oz. His high inventory of the stuff was some kind of stock ordering foulup he had made. I gave a lot of it away over the years. Have a couple of unopened 32 oz bottles left. Should be good for the duration and beyond.

Don’t really use a lot nowadays, but always take some to hunting camp. This older stuff is more pungent that the current formulation, at least in the opinion of some expert noses that I hunt with. Leave a cleaning patch or two on top of the trash and everyone notices and comments. One of those Pavlov’s dogs moments every time.
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It seems to be a rebranding thing they did a few years ago- instead of Hoppe's #9 being a specific product, now a number of different products come under the 9 umbrella.

Great product- but am I the only one that hates that bottle? It's like they designed it to tip over so you have to buy more, and that cap, jeez it's the worst.
 
I've been using Hoppes patch lube for a very long time. The first time I bought a bottle it was more of a thin liquid. Later on I bought a small drum of it and it was thicker with a different smell. Hoppes is my favorite general purpose patch lube and it is indeed difficult to find.

I finally used up my stash and started looking for more since it wasn't available locally. I did find it online from a couple of suppliers BUT, a $6 bottle was $11 just for shipping! Ah, but later I did luck out. I ordered the pictured Hoppes BP Lube. When it came it was not like the stuff I'd been using; it was more like the old stuff that was a much thinner liquid. The label said "black powder solvent". Patch lube wasn't mentioned. So I figured if it was a solvent it should still make a good patch lube.

I have yet to get to the range so haven't tried it yet; but I'm optimistic. Does anyone know if it will function, as a patch lube, as great as the original BP lube? I don't really need a cleaner since I use only water; but I think I'd have more luck finding an honest politician than the Hoppes lube I'm so used to.
 
I just ordered "Hoppe's #9 Plus" from Amazon a couple of days ago, the pictured item was correct. Have not received it yet.
8 oz. $7.99 (Amazon Prime - no shipping).
 
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I just ordered "Hoppe's #9 Plus" from Amazon a couple of days ag, the pictured item was correct. Have not received it yet.
8 oz. $7.99 (Amazon Prime - no shipping).
Thanks for the info but just tried ordering thru Amazon. With shipping and exchange and of course import taxes the total came to $54.99. UGH. Such is the life of a BP shooter North of the 49th. Back to sweet oil for patch lube.
 
Does anyone know if it will function, as a patch lube, as great as the original BP lube?

For what it's worth, my experience over the years with Hoppe's #9Plus:

1980's- came in a flat, white soft plastic bottle with a flip up nozzle. Fairly thin, kind of watery, similar to Thompson Center #13, but slightly thicker and slicker. I did not like it at all.

Late 90's- given a 32 ounce glass bottle from a gun shop owning friend. Very different. Thicker, slick and smelled slightly #9 Nitro- ish. Kind of slimy feel, had to be shaken/mixed regularly. Worked well as a patch lube- cleaner not so much.

Bottle as pictured above, with both markings on different bottles- same product. Slightly thicker, less oily and slicker than above. same smell as 90's stuff and needs occasional shaking. Excellent patch lube- really one of the best. Better cleaner than above two products. Patch run down bore before start of initial shooting seems to keep fouling from sticking as compared to a start with a dry bore.

Other than price, I have never heard a bad thing about it. I personally don't use it because I don't like the feeling/texture of it on my fingers and I like my patch lube to double as a cleaner- but that's a moot point to most I would assume.

Curious to hear your eventual findings Hanshi.
 
I have 2 partial bottles of the older 9 Plus. Both are of the white squeeze bottle variety. However the consistency is very different in each. One is a very thin liquid and the other is a creamy liquid. I must have purchased these at two different time periods. I much prefer the creamy stuff.
A couple of days ago I used the creamy bottle for my patch lube. I only had time to shoot 15 shots. I did not swab the barrel between shots. Loading was consistent from first to last. I was hoping that this newer batch that I just ordered would be the creamy type but from the feedback here it appears that it is the thin liquid type. Oh well as long as it works as well.
I wonder why Hoppes has seemed to change the formulation several times ?
 
I ordered a case a couple years ago and it is similar to the bottle above but different color scheme. It is a thick oily milky consistency I use it as lube and cleaner and it works really well.
 
I just received the 4 bottles that I ordered last week. And now I'm really confused. It says on the bottle that it's a black powder bore cleaner. But nowhere does it state patch lubricant. Jeez, if I only had bought a case of the old stuff so many years ago.
 
Scout I am sure they still make it you can probably return what you got and get the right stuff
 
Just did a quick search Big country sporting goods shows 9 black powder solvent and patch lube for 4.75 a bottle and also 9 Plus black powder solvent and patch lube for about a dollar more so both must still be made.
 

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