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Hoppin' John for New Years?

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I applaud your commitment to cooking more Southern, Bill! It's delicious, soul-warming fare when done right. Unfortunately, it will also kill ya. We've all got it coming though, right? May as well go out with a full belly.

Let me assure you, based on a life-long relationship with hoppin' John, the recipe you linked to is a thoroughly modernized, politically correct, Yankee-fied cardboard cutout of the real deal. I'll list my great-grandmother's substitutions (as I remember them) for your consideration:

Olive oil: Are you kidding me? The slaves and PWT (poor white trash) didn't have access to olives. Any "lubricant" used was meat grease, which everyone saved from frying. In our case, it was collected from cured pork, such as the jowl bacon that so commonly accompanied breakfast.

Red Onion: I didn't know there was such a thing as a red onion until I was nearly grown into a young man. Only white and yellow ever came out of our garden. Whites were sweet and mild, the yellows stronger and a little bitter. Either would work just fine in this application.

Jalapenos: Another adult discovery. We would've used cayenne, which was commonly grown hereabouts.

Smoked turkey thighs: Dead giveaway that the author has never never drank from a creek, used a spit patch, or slept on the ground with a '**** hound. You called it! You need smoked ham for this dish. Preferably something other than the saline and nitrate-infused mess you can buy at the chain groceries. We killed our own hogs every autumn and ran them through our own smokehouse for preservation. We were dirt poor, but prospered in this respect.

Low-sodium chicken stock: Hmmm. Author has probably lived in a condo all their life and has never been outside barefoot. Buy a small, cheap (less processing, fewer antibiotics and steroids) hen and make your own stock. The difference will be amazing!

Bay leaf and thyme: I seem to recall these items being on hand back in the day. Must've been locally available but we grew herbs, too. Use your own judgement.

Salt, black, and cayenne pepper: The holy trinity of seasoning in my family and I can't imagine hoppin' John without a liberal dose of all three.

Green onion: We ate these a lot when in season, but I don't remember having them for most of the year. I'm sure they could be dried, but mature onions kept well enough in the cellar, so that's what I remember being used through the colder months.

"Freshly steamed white rice": Carolina Gold is once again commonly available and is my choice for the absolute best rice you'll ever lay on your tongue! Growing up, we always kept something similar in a cloth bag that required half a day's boiling to be edible, but it was delicious. Flavored near the end with some butter and meat grease, it was a regular accompaniment to our evening meal.

In summary, if an ingredient sounds suspicious (would slaves/PWT really have cooked with clarified butter, for instance?), it probably is the work of Yankee interlopers. If it sounds like something you'd want to hide from your doctor, you're probably on the right track. Have fun and enjoy, and do let us know how it turns out!
 
There's somethin' to be said for peasant food. Mostly in Italian, "Austrian" as the President said, slavic, Greek...

When someone hands down a ladder for you to climb up I suppose you can use it to smoke the cuts most humans use for fertilizer.

At least there was no mention of Grits.

:wink:
 
Alden you eat corn bread with hoppin' john not grits.
Will southren cooking kill you? Well that could be, but I know for sure any one that doesn't eat southren cooking will die and will spend just as much time dead as the eaters of southren cooking.
I have found out that all so called unhealthy foods and other such enjoyments only cost you years at the end of your life span. Sometimes those are pretty crapy anyway.
 
I'm just teasin' Tenn -- everyone should enjoy lots of good food, especially during the holidays, even if it isn't always the best for ya. So in moderation. We always had a cup of bacon grease by the stove to scoop some out -- everything's better with bacon grease. 'cept grits.

Who, after having eaten one once, would recommend a turkey leg to anyone else? What a chore!
 
Alden said:
everything's better with bacon grease. 'cept grits.
You're slowly getting the idea, but it's bacon not bacon grease! :v (though isn't Mr.'V' there the living image of the Centurion ordering 5 Big Macs at the Rome McDonald's?) :blah:
 
Well grits is a litle different. There are two kinds of people: those who hate grits and those who can't admit it due to some provincial brainwashing.
 
This is reportedly the first cookbook recipe for Hoppin' John from 1847 and found in The Carolina Housewife by Sarah Rutledge, p.83

Hopping John
One pound of bacon, one pint of red peas, one pint of rice. First put on the peas, and when half boiled, throw in the rice, which must first be washed and gravelled. When the rice has been boiling half an hour, take the pot off the fire and put it in coals to steam, as in boiling rice alone. Put a quart of water on the peas at first, and if it boils away too much, add a little more hot water. Season with salt and pepper, and, if liked, a sprig of green mint. In serving up, put the rice and peas first in the dish, and the bacon on top.

So I am only guessing that the pound of bacon is not sliced, but cut up when serving?

As far as adding "greens" as an accompanying dish as some of the traditions go, I wonder what sort of greens were available on January 1st, in the 19th century?

For those who are wondering...
To Gravel the Rice - After it has been washed pour upon it water enough to cover it. Shake the vessel (a common piggin is best) containing the rice, causing the gravel to settle. Then pour carefully all the water, with a portion only of the rice, into another vessel (the vessels being held in each hand). Pour back the water into the first vessel ; shake it again, and pour the water with another portion of rice, into the second vessel. Repeat this until all the rice has thus been transferred from the first to the second vessel. - the last of the rice being very carefully poured off with the water, the gravel will remain. ibid pp. 93 - 94

It's also interesting that this dish is very similar to cooking from India, and my mother-in-law, being from a British colony full of Indian cooks, is familiar with the tradition of eating either black eyed peas, lentils, or red peas, along with rice, on New Year's morning..., she says the most common version was with black eyed peas... but they didn't call it "Hoppin' John"... here is a very early recipe for such a dish...

Indian Cutcheree. Steep a pint of split peas, and add a large tea-cupful of rice, with an onion, ginger, pepper, mace, and salt; boil till the peas and rice are swelled and tender, but not clammy ; stir them with a fork till the water is wasted. Serve it up in a dish garnished with hard eggs and whole boiled onions. The stirring it with a fork is to prevent the grains being broken. c. 1827

The only difference being for my relatives that yellow curry powder was used to spice the dish instead of those spices listed above.

I wonder if this was a dish that moved from Western India (what is now Pakistan), via Muslim traders, across the northern edge of Africa so would be known in some of those cultures, and when Africans were enslaved and transported to the Americas (and lost Islam) they then added the pork....???

LD
 
How I do it. Keep it simple.
1. Boil 1 pound of black eyed peas about 1 1/2 hours along with a SMOKED ham hock that has some meat on it. Take out the ham hock and cut all the meat off the bones (should fall off) and dice up and put back in pot. Add 1 1/2cups of long grain rice and if the rice starts soaking up too much water- keep adding a little water, cook about 20 minutes.
In a frying pan fry a large onion- add to the pot and salt and pepper.
Real simple but tastes as good as adding a lot of other stuff IMHO.
 
In "my home area", i.e., far Northeast Texas, the superstition is that "if you eat black-eyed peas on New Years Day, you'll get to eat 'em all year."

That's why I actively avoid black-eyed peas on New Years Day, as I'm afraid that the superstition just might be ACCURATE.

NOTE: One of the "inside jokes" about "us hillbillies" out of the TX Bayou Country is we eat so many peas & beans that "if you stick a knife in us, nothing but pot-likker will run out".

yours, satx
 
you da' man J :thumbsup:
soon ramps will be pushing up. I like to pickle a pint or 2 - add a dryed cayenne and salt.
 
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