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I was raised by my grandmother and had no one to teach me stuff. I read everything I could and learned from experience. Having a degree in forestry bolstered what I'd learned on my own. And when I said I read everything I could get on the subject I mean just that. That's why I got hooked on Boy's Life and Outdoor Life as a little kid.

I think there's an advantage to learning on one's own. Since most people (especially many "old timers") don't know s&#*@ from Shinola, one gets to bypass a lot of myths and garbage. Very few people I have known ever really knew anything about guns, much less muzzleloaders. And most of the advice I've received concerning hunting was pure, steaming, unadulterated manure.
 
obsessive interest in the Wellington/Napoleon era.then 2 years ago at the Yorkshire show the MLAGB had a has a go stand ,like WOW.the following year another go at the local show.pecker pecker the bug was tapping at my head so i talked the missus /boss into me buying 1 .now i mould my own balls make my own cartridges and thanks to a kind farmer/Pheasant shoot owner il have my own area to control squizzers and rabbits in november..Had loads or good advice from peeps on here which is a great help ,cant wait
 
valen said:
I've always been more into history than guns and I started out interested in military history. Particularly the little discussed wars like the war of Austrian Succession and the Seven Years war. (How can you not love that story. Maria Theresa turns out to be kind of a badass. Frederick the Great vs all of Europe). Naturally that lead to the French and Indian war. At this same time my wife is into SCA and I'm bored out of my mind at one of the many SCA events she used to drag me to and reading The Crucible of War by Fred Anderson. A friend of mine observes this and tells me he knows where I belong. A month later I'm outfitted as a highlander and chasing a couple of coureur du bois through the woods with a flintlock in hand. Since I've changed to portraying a Massachusetts Ranger, I've just recently bought a flintlock rifle and I'm getting more into shooting. Deer season is probably going to happen someday soon too.

I had a custom reproduction 1590 lemon-butt snaphaunce made just so no prissy Lord could reject a flintlock pistol at SCA events regardless of when they decided their timeframe ended (there's often the question of if it is 1600 or 1650). Breaking an arm with rattan is hella-cool but firearms, those are taboo...

There's a gunner's guild but what a bunch of odd a wholes.
 
hanshi said:
I already know how to hunt. I get in touch with my gun bearer, a guide, a bottle of good bourbon and some cigars. Oh, and I take down a couple of guns & ammo.

Yup, we know -- no shooting and/or game involved.
 
Alden said:
valen said:
I've always been more into history than guns and I started out interested in military history. Particularly the little discussed wars like the war of Austrian Succession and the Seven Years war. (How can you not love that story. Maria Theresa turns out to be kind of a badass. Frederick the Great vs all of Europe). Naturally that lead to the French and Indian war. At this same time my wife is into SCA and I'm bored out of my mind at one of the many SCA events she used to drag me to and reading The Crucible of War by Fred Anderson. A friend of mine observes this and tells me he knows where I belong. A month later I'm outfitted as a highlander and chasing a couple of coureur du bois through the woods with a flintlock in hand. Since I've changed to portraying a Massachusetts Ranger, I've just recently bought a flintlock rifle and I'm getting more into shooting. Deer season is probably going to happen someday soon too.

I had a custom reproduction 1590 lemon-butt snaphaunce made just so no prissy Lord could reject a flintlock pistol at SCA events regardless of when they decided their timeframe ended (there's often the question of if it is 1600 or 1650). Breaking an arm with rattan is hella-cool but firearms, those are taboo...

There's a gunner's guild but what a bunch of odd a wholes.

There is zero SCA gun activity in my area, sadly enough. I was drooling over wheellock pistols for a long time while I was involved in SCA, but couldn't gather the cash for one back in the day.
 
I have many things to thank my father for, black powder is one of them.

I chose flintlocks because I like the moving parts, and the principle on which they operate. It always seemed so uncanny, almost magical, how well they can work. I also like the challenge included in shooting them. Most people can shoot a nipple hugger pretty well, a flintlock is another animal entirely.

I never said I could shoot one all that well! :haha:
 
I grew up hunting and had a love of history even when young...Thankfully I grew up in eastern NC and we had a cottage at Kill Devil Hills so I went to see the Lost Colony as a youngster...I also visited Williamsburg when Wallace Gusler was the gunsmith...

But, Fess Parker sealed the deal...Back then, we got 3 channels and always watched the Wonderful World of Disney, the family would gather around the TV every Sunday evening...When Davy Crockett aired I was smitten...Then Daniel Boone started in '64 and my brother and I watched every episode...

I moved to Atlanta in '77 and bought my first flintlock from Bob Watts, he had a store in Stone Mountain, for about 10 years that was all I used to hunt with...

Anyway, I still watch Daniel Boone, have the DVDs...Thankfully I have a grandson that loves it as well...Here we are after a Daniel Boone marathon... :)

DanielBoone.jpg
 
I grew up with guns. In the Boy Scouts, we were the only troop in Southern California to all have and wear our NRA marksmanship medals on our Boy Scout uniforms - would give certain folks hissy fits today.

My family moved to Ohio when I was partway thru high school, and Golden Age Arms had a shop in the little town where I lived. Dad was a member of OGCA, and one day brought home a replica 1861 Colt Navy, which I still have today.

There was an old gentleman at the range where I would shoot who always had several rifles to shoot, almost all were flintlocks, and every one was a beautiful work of art. I thought he was building them and test firing them before selling to customers, but once in a while one would appear that had some obvious wear. Ends up they were all originals, passed down to him from a previous generation. A great great someone or other was a town official or judge, or mayor or someone in the upper reaches of the local society who would organize holiday rifle shoots for townsmen. The rich folks had the rifles that got fired once a year & looked brand new; the real folk, working people who depended on their guns for food, had guns that were more used & worn.

The ancestor bought the fancy guns from estates of the rich who passed on, and the accumulated legacy was intended to pass intact thru generations without selling or breaking up the collection.

I watched the gent load & fire these rifles, and when he asked me if I wanted to fire them, I jumped at the chance. I'm lefthanded, but learned to shoot the righthanded flintlocks without any trouble. Over a couple of years, I must have fired several dozen rifles, never the same one, I was told. I don't know where the old man lived, and was never invited to come to see the collection, but surmised that it was kept at the family estate, where he, and his father lived, and where his sons were born. I'm guessing the entire collection was over 100 rifles, and whenever he was at the range, I was always welcome to shoot whatever he brought with him for the day.

Years passed and I had opportunity to fire flintlocks at a couple of ranges where I'd shoot. Meanwhile, Dad built a rifle. Unfortunately it was a caplock, beautiful in its' own right and I have it today.

I'd fired a couple of lefthaded flintlocks along the way & it doesn't much matter to me which way they are, I shoot both equally.

My first flintlock of my own was a .50 cal. GPR and I have a couple of others, both left and righthanded. I'm relatively new to smoothbores, and have one to shoot, one to build, and another ordered and soon on the way to me all righthanded flint.
 
I grew up shooting traditional bows and hunted exclusively with bows (both traditional and modern) for over 25 years. I decided I wanted to expand my hunting opportunities a bit but had zero interest in modern firearms, so decided to give black powder a go. That was in 2000 and I started with a Cabela's branded percussion sidelock. After a number of years I found this forum and learned from everyone here about flinters and got my first one around 5 years ago. The first few years I focused on small game as I acquainted myself with the field use/operation of a flinter in all weather conditions.

I have now sold off all percussions but my favorite, a .54 Pedersoli Maple Rocky Mtn Hawken, and already have five flinters from .40 to .62. That new passion and this forum also got me started in building flintlocks and in 2013 I killed my first flintlock deer with a gun I made myself, round balls I cast myself, hand-made patching cut at the muzzle, and several home-made accouterments.

So, while I started muzzleloading all by my lonesome, this Forum and all of you are really the primary reason I got involved in Flintlocks. :) A hearty THANK YOU to everyone here for helping me along the way! :thumbsup:
 
hanshi;

I knew a little bit and then after finding this site I learned a good bit more from the fine people here. Some of it I refused to believe but after I tested their findings I found most to be of great value. Great site and great and generous people here. So hard to find in today's world.
 
Oreion61 said:
Just a question to you. How did you get into Black Powder shooting? Also why choose Flintlock?
Back in the '70s when I was in college, I spent a month in Letcher County, KY. as part of a work/study class. I got very interested in Appalachian customs and culture, especially the folk music.

Sometime just after returning to school, I must have heard about the Foxfire series of books. I eventually collected nine volumes. But it was Vol. 5 that really interested me. Here were interviews with Bud Siler, Hershel House, Hawk Boughton,
and others. I had absolutely no idea anyone was shooting those old muzzle loaders, let alone building new ones!

In the back of the book, I found the address of Dixie Gun Works. I sent off for a catalog, spent hours and hours reading, pouring through it. And I had to have a flintlock. Nobody told me I shouldn't. Nobody told me beginners should learn on percussion rifles. So I had to have a flintlock. And there it was; the Dixie Tennessee Mountain Rifle, .50 caliber, and left handed, too!
I bought one.

With a barrel outside diameter of 15/16", and being 41½" long, it sure was a heavy beast. But it was a flintlock, and the lock worked very well.
 
I shot my first black powder in the late 50's, originals, still have them. Of course TV shows like "Northwest Passage" and Disney's "Davey Crocket" primed me for the experience. I didn't get into flintlocks till I joined the reactivated Daniel Morgan's Riflemen here in Winchester in early '76. I've been a regular shooter in the N-SSA since about 1985 with the 2nd. Va. Vol. Inf.. Though I have done the most of my shooting with caplocks I have quite a number of flint guns and enjoy shooting them the most.
 
The first time I realized there WERE people who knew a lot about muzzleloaders was when I got involved in this and a few other forums. And yes, there is no end to learning more, and more....
 
Well I thought I'd responded to this, but I cant find it so..

I originally got into BP firearms because I wanted to buy my first firearm while home on leave from the navy and couldnt wait the 10 day (before instacheck) background check.

So I found a CVA navy colt kit, brought it home slapped it together (literally :redface: ) and started shooting it.

Now as to the flintlock portion of the question, I don't yet own one but I would muse this:Unless you are new to the sport, Why not a flintlock? I want one, and will have one someday.
 
I got into black powder to give the firearms hobby another go; I didn't have a very positive experience with modern firearms growing up. Just wasn't around the right people.

I've watched many movies and television shows growing up and always had an affinity for flintlocks. I figured what little I knew of smoothbore flintlocks that I could at least now have something else to blame for my inaccuracy. Funny thing is, I shoot better with a flintlock smoothie than I ever have with any modern firearm. I actually manage to put the majority of the shots on the paper! And I remember three years ago when I was shooting my .243 Win., fired 80 rounds one afternoon and only hit the target maybe 4 times...
 
My start in muzzle loading began when a friend showed me a MuzzleBlasts magazine in 1964. I learned about Dixie Gun Works and built a cap pistol (which I never show anyone). I was content with black powder as a passing fad until I saw a couple of buckskinners start a flint/steel fire. When they finished, one handed me the flint and steel and said, “Here, you try it.” That pretty much set the hook.

A group of us started the Stones Trace Regulators (muzzle loading club). The first flint rifle in the club was a poor boy that Don Kammerer built for me. Since then I guess I have been a student of flintlocks.

In 1985 I went to the gun-building seminar at Bowling Green and met Gary Brumfield. I told him I had some educational equipment that might be able to time a flintlock. At the next seminar I came prepared to give it a try.

The equipment and methodology that Gary and I used have evolved over the years, but learning about flintlocks has always been fun. So far I’ve had the chance to time many locks of all kinds, timed priming powders, and vent types.

Perhaps the most enjoyable part of muzzle loading is the group of friendships that develop. Some are makers who have made guns I enjoy, some are makers of the locks I study, and some are the shooters who make these guns preform. These folks keep my curiosity going with all kinds of ideas for experiments.

Regards,
Pletch
 
Don't wait until "someday" as "someday" has a bad habit of turning into "wishing I had" day. I did take the plunge over 50 years ago and have never regretted getting one, then another, then another....... :2
 
Walks with fire said:
PA added a deer flintlock only season just after I graduated high school that still runs today. It starts the day after Christmas and runs for about 3 weeks.

My brothers and I didn't have anyone to teach us and the internet didn't exist then. It took me many years to learn the ropes. It's my preferred way to hunt now.

exactly the same here. what part of PA are you in?
 

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