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I guess enough has been said on this subject so I'll just say I'm with Mr. Ellerbe on this one.
I have to wonder though why a person that "cant walk far" would want to shoot a deer 700 yds.
distant.
Deadeye
 
Mustketman not included, I think most of you have a pretty sad attitude. If you had your way, I would have never tried flintlock.

My first muzzleloader was a used .504 White in-line with a 1-3x scope that shoots big lead conicals pretty nicely. The only reason I bought it was to take advantage of the newly liberalized rules for PA's early ML doe season.

My in-line experience gave me the confidence and desire to try flintlock. Now I've got flintlock tattooed on my brain as I mentally put together my future arsenal: a .54 for RB, a squirrel gun for little RB, a trade rifle/fowler. And wishing I could get my hands on flintlock shotgun capable of shooting steelshot for ducks and geese...or should I tell them to shove the steelshot reg since that ain't what they used way back when and use Pb anyway?

Now, not everyone is going to convert from sabots, pistol bullets, T7 pellets and shotgun primers. But if I couldn't have used the in-line, I would still be thinking you all were just a bunch of crazy nut-jobs in coon skin caps, praying the thing goes off when you see a deer and kidding yourselves about the game-taking ability of roundballs.
 
chickenlittle I for one take a very slight offense to your comment I do not have a sad attitude. I am just a headstrong cantankerous grouchy old curmudgeon who once had a muzzleloader season in this state, that now allows anything. No caliber restrictions legally I guess you could use a cannon. Over 90 percent of "muzzleloaders" sold in this day and age are inlines these people care nothing about NMLRA who lobby to keep the right to purchase, store and use black powder or substitute. I guess if we lost this right we could all buy Savage smokeless powder "muzzleloaders"
weasel
those that can do those that can"t inline
 
I take no offense, just consider the source as unimportant, the a lack of foresight in the law has allowed many to circumvent the spirit of what the original intent was for ML seasons, and that is fine if that is the level one wishes to set the bar, but for those who do so and chose to lead with the jaw be prepared for a verbal clobbering from those who have been in this sport before the time someone couldn't make a gun based on primitive technology work and had to modernize it.
 
quote:Quoten chickenlittle: My in-line experience gave me the confidence and desire to try flintlock. Now I've got flintlock tattooed on my brain..." As av said afore, thar are a lot o people who thin us blackpowder shooters are a bit teached in the head until they try shootin 'air Inlines.
I know....thar are some who like thar inline an' will not even try a ol' time style gun an fer them I can only say "your loss not mine. Ye are missin a lot o the fun at can be had a shootin these thins."

As av also said ta the rest o ye, iffen ye don't like the way the laws written, get offen yer butt an change it!! The only thin that really needs a changen to my way o thinnen is to ban am telescope sites an make am hunters use iron sights.

Whan my eyes were a goin blind I switched over to am peep type sites 'n I see nothin wrong with allowin even them fer huntin. (Ah also gots some pitchers o some ol' muzzlestuffers whats mounted with them an I thin the sites are original to the guns in tha pitchers.)
Ah thin that would allow those who can't see too well to still get good shots without most people a takin em 250 yard shots that tend to upset a lot o ye.
 
I think peep sights and conicals are fine of ML seasons....as long as they are of a type/style from the past, modern sights and bullets used with a replica of an 18th century gun just don't seem to flow smoothly with the spirit of the whole idea.
 
quote:Originally posted by tg:
I think peep sights and conicals are fine of ML seasons....as long as they are of a type/style from the past, modern sights and bullets used with a replica of an 18th century gun just don't seem to flow smoothly with the spirit of the whole idea. Everyone: How do you feel about the long, brass telescopic sight that was invented before the Civil War?

In 1848 Morgan James of Utica, N.Y. invented the long-tube telescopic sight that would be used by Civil War marksmen just 13 years later. Priced at about $20, these telescopes were no more than four power. But in the hands of a skilled soldier with a sharp wit and keen eye, these devices offered sufficient magnification for aiming a rifle with deadly, long-distance accuracy.
 
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